Re-Import Problem

[ddouglass]

Ok. I have a good one for our experts (Admin, DClark, Bryan, Bob, George, GaryC, Gdun, Sam, and anyone else I forgot.) See if you guys come up with the same results.
Setup: I am trying to re-import all of my CDGs, since for the most part they were imported several versions of Hoster earlier with a lot less error correction. I didn't want to overwrite my existing set of KMAs, so pointed the import folder to a new location. However, I do not wish to have to retype in all of the ones that I already did, because they weren't in the database. In order to do this I left the songs database pointing to the original folder. This also gives me the correct BookID as well.
Problem: Even though the folder for the import location is set to new location, this is ignored and imported to original location overwriting the original. Or if I rebuild the database pointing to new location then I don't have the data for the ones previously typed in. Any ideas?

[George]

Don't really understand the purpose of reimporting all the cdg's.

Wouldn't copying and pasting the KMA's to another folder achieve the same result?

[ddouglass]

No, because the program has changed and has greatly increased error correction to eliminate graphic problems. Most of the glitches I have are minor but annoying, so re-importing from the originals with latest Hoster should clear those up. Also, I have some that are multiplexed and were done with work around (not the cleanest import either). This is to re-import my master copy of my KMAs. When this is done then I will copy them to my show machine. Its just easier to go through them all and eliminate any minor problems at once.

[George]

Well then, if the newer Hoster is going to improve your existing KMA's and you're working on a computer other than the show machine, why the reluctance to replace existing KMA's?

That's the whole purpose isn't it... to replace KMA's?

[ddouglass]

I don't know??? I wanted to start the folder anew so I could edit out some duplicates, separate out those with vocal and a few other things. My main concern here though is the fact that the folder selection is being ignored by the program without any indication.

[George]

I recently deleted all but two of my KMA files as I only use them to test with in situations like this.

My KMA folder is directly on C: for faster access. It is called HOSTER SONGLIST.

I just created a new folder Called HOSTER TEST.

HOSTER SONGLIST containes two tracks from a S.C. disc.

I got out the same disc and went to Import and changed the target folder to HOSTER TEST.

Then I put in the Brand and disc number information.

It read the disc and showed the first two tracks as imported.

I ignored that, clicked the two track boxes and the message changed from IMPORT to READY. I told it to process the selected tracks and it did. I now have two different folders with the same two tracks in them.

Then I went to REBUILD DATABASE and selected HOSTER TEST( both folders were showing)...It did the rebuild and advised me that duplicate disd ID's were detected, which I expected.

I don't know what the situation would be with unknown brands...might have to type everything in. I'll try one whan I get more time.

[CochrellGary]

Dale,
If I understand what you're trying to accomplish, why not:
1. Copy current KMA library to a temp directory.
2. Delete the KMA's in your current library.

You now have an empty original database directory
and the original songs.mdb with all the information.

Now re-import your original CDG's to your original database directory
Hoster shows that they are already there, just re-import.
All the header info will be there.

Gary C

[George]

Got a feeling that the title and artist will still have to be re-typed on any that had to have manual input initially.

Hope I'm wrong.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by CochrellGary

Dale,
If I understand what you're trying to accomplish, why not:
1. Copy current KMA library to a temp directory.
2. Delete the KMA's in your current library.

You now have an empty original database directory
and the original songs.mdb with all the information.

Now re-import your original CDG's to your original database directory
Hoster shows that they are already there, just re-import.
All the header info will be there.

Gary C

Hadn't thought of that, Gary. I'll try it when I get home tomorrow night. (Work had to interfere with my fun) Thanks.
Dale

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by George

I recently deleted all but two of my KMA files as I only use them to test with in situations like this.
My KMA folder is directly on C: for faster access. It is called HOSTER SONGLIST.
I just created a new folder Called HOSTER TEST.
HOSTER SONGLIST containes two tracks from a S.C. disc.
I got out the same disc and went to Import and changed the target folder to HOSTER TEST.
Then I put in the Brand and disc number information.
It read the disc and showed the first two tracks as imported.
I ignored that, clicked the two track boxes and the message changed from IMPORT to READY. I told it to process the selected tracks and it did. I now have two different folders with the same two tracks in them.

Then I went to REBUILD DATABASE and selected HOSTER TEST( both folders were showing)...It did the rebuild and advised me that duplicate disd ID's were detected, which I expected.

I don't know what the situation would be with unknown brands...might have to type everything in. I'll try one whan I get more time.

I am guessing you used a different BookID and when you did the rebuild you listed both paths? I want to keep the same BookID though. Try that and see if it ignores the target and overwrites.

[mindonstrike]

Originally Posted by CochrellGary

Dale,
If I understand what you're trying to accomplish, why not:
1. Copy current KMA library to a temp directory.
2. Delete the KMA's in your current library.

You now have an empty original database directory
and the original songs.mdb with all the information.

Now re-import your original CDG's to your original database directory
Hoster shows that they are already there, just re-import.
All the header info will be there.

Gary C

Sounds like Gary's sugestion would work for keeping title and artist info intact but I wonder if it will keep your MPX and language and genre info. I've never tried reimporting an MPX song and I don't use language or genre info so don't know what you'll get there. All you can do is try one disk and see.

Sam

[George]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

I am guessing you used a different BookID and when you did the rebuild you listed both paths? I want to keep the same BookID though. Try that and see if it ignores the target and overwrites.

Wrong on both counts. I used the same book I.D. and only built the database in the test folder. To do otherwise would have been a lesson in futility.

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by George

Wrong on both counts. I used the same book I.D. and only built the database in the test folder. To do otherwise would have been a lesson in futility.

Then why would it tell you that there were duplicate DiskIDs?

[George]

Because there were, one set in each folder. The originals in the normal folder, and the duplicate imports in the temp folder....elementary, dear Watson

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by George

Because there were, one set in each folder. The originals in the normal folder, and the duplicates in the temp folder.

So did you do a "rebuild" with both folders listed or did you do a "merge" with both listed? Doesn't matter...I am going to try GaryC's idea. I believe it will work to do what I want it to do.

[George]

I did what I said I did in my first post, and merged nothing.

It worked here, choose to believe it or not.

I hope I'm wrong, but have a nagging feeling that in cases like Unknown Brands, or KHP made discs where the title and artist had to be manually input, they will have to be manually input again, regardless...dunno, just a feeling

Case closed.