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Old November 15th, 2005, 01:50 PM
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Using LCD flat screens as singers displays

Hello. I wanted to see if anyone out there are using LCD computer flat screens for the singers to view the songs words on. I am considering this primarily due to the weight comparison and I think that LCD displays are tougher than TVs. My 13" TV weighs around 15 lbs by itself when a lightweigh 17" LCD flat screen weights only 8 lbs. If you are doing this type of setup, please explain in detail. Thanks.
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Old November 15th, 2005, 02:54 PM
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i use a car drop down 15" monitor that bolts to the ceiling of my place. all i do is just drop it down and start the show.

of coarse i have a few things from radio shack to make it work.


i bought it off ebay (via Hong Kong) for $199


i love it.
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Old November 15th, 2005, 04:43 PM
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Sounds interesting

Thanks for the reply. Could I get some information on your 15" monitor. What is the cable arrangement from your computer? And what other items are you using?
Here is my idea: Laptop screen shows Hoster program. Laptop output (Yellow RCA Composite) to a TV Tuner Box. This TV Tuner Box has a VGA output. This VGA output then goes to the LCD flatscreen. I have been running this setup all day and I have not seen a problem. The LCD picture is not as clear as I would like. I have it connected to a expensive LCD, but I think it clear enough for song text.

A simple setup would be to find a LCD that accepts composite video.

I also want the cap. of connecting to house TVs. I would do this by using a composite splitter cable that would split the laptop composite output to two. One would go to the TV Tuner box, the other to a RF Modulator where TVs could be driven. I have not tried this setup yet.

I will look on Ebay for your type of monitor. Thanks.
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Old November 15th, 2005, 04:56 PM
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I have a Sharp 15" Flat screen TV monitor, that i connect with a Rca from my dual display card. I converted my standard TV stand with a wall mount adapter. you can check out the pics
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Old November 15th, 2005, 05:28 PM
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TV stand

Hello. That was my general thought. Are you using a laptop or desktop and what type of video card? How do you find LCDs that accept composite or s-video? Beaver, is your setup mobile?
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I bought a 15" sharp hi def monitor, I was planning on using like you, However, I picked it up between the thumb and forefinger, and the screen cracked. Beware, the LCD screen is fragile. I am thinking of making a floor monitor type (triangular) box, and mounting a lcd monitor in it. it would appear as a speaker, and kinda look kool. also add a little protection to the flatscreen.
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Old November 15th, 2005, 06:32 PM
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lcd

we have been using a lcd since hoster came out

love it will never go back to using a tv again

have not had one break or get broken yet !!!
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Old November 15th, 2005, 06:40 PM
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I'm using a rackmount computer with a ATI Radeon 9200 128 mb dual display card. My sharp LCD TV has standard rca, Hi-def, Coaxial and S-video inputs. So you could probably hook it up to almost anything computer with dual video outs.
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Old November 15th, 2005, 09:19 PM
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i bought this first

15" LCD Drop Down

then i bought this

Wireless


then i bought this to run the LCD

A/C to DC
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Old November 16th, 2005, 12:21 PM
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Good info

Thanks for the replys!

Gduns; did you use the sharp or go back to TV usage? I currently have a black wooden carrier on wheels that I place out in front of the singer, I wish I had a picture. Toward the singer, is a 13"TV and below it is a Samson powered studio speaker that I use as the singer monitor, this works great to keep the trip hazard down. On the front, I use another 13" tv for the crowd to view, plus it acts as a spare, if the singer TV breaks, I spin the box around and use the other TV.

Mike: If you could share more on your set-up of your LCD I would be greatful.

Djmadmaxx: What is the model number of your Sharp LCD so I can do my homework?

Beavis: I assume your setup stays in one place and I like the folding up idea. I have the same wireless transmitters but I have not used them for the LCD application. And I understand the power supply.

All good input, are there any more ideas out there? Take care
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Old November 16th, 2005, 03:44 PM
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I use an L1730S 17" Flat LCD Monitor /w VESA hole patten 3"X3".
$240.00 w/$30.00 Rebate = $210.00

I searched the Internet for W E E K S and could only find this WEBSITE with what I W A N T E D.

I bought these items from:
http://www.ergoindemand.com
1 48" L x 2" Diameter Pole (Plated) $119.00
1 Mobile Base with casters for 2" pole. Color Black $78.00
1 Single Pole Mount Bracket (2" diameter pole) Color Black $47.00
1 Tilt/Pivot Bracket for monitors w/VESA hole pattern3"x3".Color Black. $49.00
1 100 x 100mm Interface plate $15.00

Total = $308.00 <----may be a little more due to a price increase.

The Mobile Base, mentioned above, is larger and more stable than a typical Karaoke TV stand Base. But, there are NO Lock-Downs on the Wheels/Casters like a Karaoke TV stand has.

Now the hook up.

Because you are using a Laptop, and, you stated that your RCA OUT is not giving you the RESOLUTION on an LCD that you would like, I would suggest getting this, because this adapter is primarily for LAPTOPS:

Matrox DualHead2Go

at this WEBSITE:

http://shopmatrox.com/usa/products/datasheet.asp?ID=788

With this EXTERNAL ADAPTER, you will have VGA to your Singer's LCD Display.

You will, most likely, need a VGA 15" Extension Cable to complete the Hook-up to your Singer's Display.

Now, if you are going to SPLIT the output of the 2nd VGA...ONE, to your Singer's LCD Display and ONE, to other Viewable Displays, such as CLUB TVs, you will need this:

MAXVIEW PC- TO- TV VIDEO CONVERTER

And can view the Specs at this WEBSITE:

http://www.aitech.com/site2/products/maxview.htm

and find a good price at one of the sites listed at this WEBSITE:

http://www.dealtime.com/xPC-Aitech_MaxView

With this you will hook the VGA Pig-Tail, on the MaxView, to the Matrox DualHead2Go Converter’s 2nd VGA OUT and hook your 15' VGA Extension to the MaxView VGA OUT and the other end of the 15' VGA Extension to the Singer's LCD Display VGA IN.

Then, either use the MaxView RCA OUT to the CLUB TV RCA IN, in which, you could use an RCA "Y" to go to "More Than One" CLUB TVs RCA IN. Be sure to set the TV to the correct VIDEO INPUT.

Or, you could Hook and RCA cable between the MaxView RCA OUT to the RF MODULATOR RCA VIDEO IN and go COAX OUT, of the RF MODULATOR, to COAX IN of all CLUB TVs needed. Be sure to set all the CLUB TVs to Channel 3 or 4.

Or you could use the MaxView S-VIDEO OUT to the S-VIDEO IN of a Single TV S-VIDEO IN. Be sure to set the TV to the correct VIDEO INPUT.

Or you could...list goes on and on.

That's it!

Norm

P.S. I use the Matrox P750 TRIPLE-HEAD in BOTH my SHOW Computer and Backup Computer. My Computers are Mid-Tower PCs and, therefore, my P750s are internal AGP Video Cards.
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Old November 17th, 2005, 08:50 AM
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Very detailed reply!

Thanks for the data. I am at work right now, but I am going to read this very carefully this weekend if not sooner. Then I will comment. Thanks again!
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Old November 17th, 2005, 12:06 PM
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You will, most likely, need a VGA 15" Extension Cable to complete the Hook-up to your Singer's Display.
I meant to say 15 FOOT VGA Extension Cable...not 15 INCHES.

Sorry,

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Old November 17th, 2005, 04:44 PM
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lcd

nreel spelled it out for you i put him on the

Matrox DualHead2Go,MAXVIEW PC- TO- TV VIDEO CONVERTER

Matrox P750 TRIPLE-HEAD

i am using this type of set up all so
with a diff lcd . allso not using this type of poll set up
but will change to it in the near futher

this set up works great good luck what ever you do
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Old November 20th, 2005, 03:37 PM
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Good info!

Thanks for the input everyone. I tried hooking up a seperate LCD from my laptop vga output WHILE I was using the composite output of the laptop and I could not get all 3 screen operational at the same time. I want to method that is going to be most flexiable to connect to wherever I play and want to connect to their TVs or monitors. It seems that VGA connection to the house TV may be confusing to perform. But I will continue to read and research this subject. If anyone else has input, please throw some in. Thanks!
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