Problem with a Legends Disc

[Wallymeister]

OK, Up until now I've really had no major problems with importing my discs but a new situation has arisen. I just purchased a Legends Disc (LG-055) and during import it got to track 11 and reading disc progress slowed to almost a stop. It took it about 5 minutes to read that track and then went to track 12 and did the same thing only it took longer. Track 13 also. Then the last 3 tracks were normal. This got my curiosity up so after import was done I went to play tab and played them. Track 11 was pretty garbled and 12 & 13 were unreadable.

So, my first instinct told me that read speed was to fast so I slowed my reader (MTU USB Plextor) to 16x. Tried again, did the same thing. Slowed the reader to 8x. Track 11 is finally acceptable but with some garble. I even tried buffing disc with Disc DR to no avail.

Does anyone have any thoughts on why this might be happening. My thoughts are maybe a bad disc but because this disc works fine in my CD player with Leader CD+G reader I'm wondering if this is some kind of copy protection scheme to confuse computer drives.

Thanks,
Wally

[admin]

If you have Microstudio, try importing the individual tracks. Then using Custom Assembly, write them to a new CDR disc.

Try importing them into Hoster.

I don't recall ever hearing something like this where it was not a bad disc. For example, SC use such cheap CDR media that we have heard it take up to 25 minutes (yes... twenty-five ) to import a SINGLE TRACK. If the disc was copied to MTU Silver CDR media, it imported at normal speeds.

[Wallymeister]

Thanks admin,

I did use Microstudio to back up my disc. As I always do. Anyway, I believe that was a step that I left out. I was using the Microstudio copied disc at first and then tried original but nothing was any different. However, I am not using MTU silver cd-r's either. Never had a problem before though.

If I slow down the read speed even more, will this help or not? I didn't slow down the read speed when I made the copy in Microstudio. Maybe I'll try that and see. I didn't notice if read slowed down in Microstudio because I usually walk away from computer when Copying discs.

Well, I'll play with this a little more and see. Is MTU silver Mitsui silver?

P.S. Can you elaborate a little as to why my CD player has no trouble reading if it is indeed a bad disc and not some sort of deliberate scheme to confuse computer.
Just wondering!

Wally

[mikedomi]

this is a bad disc problem
there is nothing on the legends disc to slow up importing
for it to do the first ten or so and then the last two ok
should of been enough to tell you that the disc was bad

i have important all the legends disc with no problem

how ever i had the same thing happin on about 10 disc out of 3000 in each case the
disc was bad go back to were you bought the disc and get a new one

admin you should post some were
when hoster slows up on a track like that it is most likely a bad disc or track

belive me when i tell you after 44000 tracks i know when hoster does not like a track
it will keep trying to read the bad track for a long time befor it craps out
a bit of advice here if hoster takes more then 3 min to read a track chanceec are that that track is bad
just move on to the next track dont keep wasting your time trying to get that track come back when you get the new disc
if it is a good track hoster will ripp right thur it
it is one of the fastest ripp out there for cdg

[Wallymeister]

Mike I tend to agree that probabilty is bad disc. However I also know that copy protection schemes to confuse computer are out there and they are probably not going away. I'd no doubt say that if I had purchased this Legends disc a couple of years ago that there would be no copy protection schemes that are causing the problem. I don't know for sure that there isn't something now with latest prints.
The way this is reacting is much like MediaCloq that didn't effect the reading in CD players. (except DVD+G / CD+G players)

Just trying to be sure. Looks like I will be returning it though.
Wally

[mikedomi]

we have there newest disc and are not having any problem
i think and hope in this case that it is a bad disc
any way have a good day

[Wallymeister]

Well, well, well,
Wouldn't you know it. Went back and used Microstudio to import tracks (3 of them) on that bad Legends disc and whala! Reburnt them and reimported them in Hoster. They are now flawless.

I wonder if it's possible that at the time I was doing orginal import some other program running in the background could have caused something like this to happen? The computer I am currently using for shows and imports is my home computer and I do have alot of software and such on this machine.

Well, at least now I won't have to take this disc back.

Hey, while I'm thinking about it. Can anyone help me with steps to take to do a clean boot on my computer so that only the stuff I need will be running during shows. I am running Windows XP Pro and I use USB soundcard, Plextor Drive and hard drive with all kma's and hoster files.

Thanks All,
Wally