Kmh Files

[WaltR]

Sorry if I am duplicating previous topics but I couldn't find my answers in other post and I don't seem to get my questions answered in the manual.

I haven't messed with the KMH files until yesterday. I downloaded some songs from Sunfly and to load them into Hoster, I have to import them from the hardrive after I have unzipped them. It seems I have no choice t as to if I want to load them as KMA or KMH or if I do I can't figure it out. Anyway they loaded fine but as KMH from MP3+G. Here is my question. From reading other post about this somewhere, I thought KMH files would be stored with the kMA files, but maybe I am not remembering correctly. I had a problem with a couple of files and tried to find them in the KMA files with no luck. I did a search for KMH files and found none. Apparently, the unzipped folder i.e. C:\Karaoke Downloads\Unzipped that I used for the location to unzip becomes the needed file for KMH but they don't show an extention as KMH and if I delete this unzippped files after importing them to Hoster, then I lose them in Hoster. What am I missing here and I still don't understand the reason for KMH other than I think they require less disk space. Any explanation would be appreciated.

Walt

[ddouglass]

Originally Posted by WaltR

Sorry if I am duplicating previous topics but I couldn't find my answers in other post and I don't seem to get my questions answered in the manual.

I haven't messed with the KMH files until yesterday. I downloaded some songs from Sunfly and to load them into Hoster, I have to import them from the hardrive after I have unzipped them. It seems I have no choice t as to if I want to load them as KMA or KMH or if I do I can't figure it out. Anyway they loaded fine but as KMH from MP3+G. Here is my question. From reading other post about this somewhere, I thought KMH files would be stored with the kMA files, but maybe I am not remembering correctly. I had a problem with a couple of files and tried to find them in the KMA files with no luck. I did a search for KMH files and found none. Apparently, the unzipped folder i.e. C:\Karaoke Downloads\Unzipped that I used for the location to unzip becomes the needed file for KMH but they don't show an extention as KMH and if I delete this unzippped files after importing them to Hoster, then I lose them in Hoster. What am I missing here and I still don't understand the reason for KMH other than I think they require less disk space. Any explanation would be appreciated.

Walt

For KMH a file is added to the folder where the original file is located. This file is only 256 bytes. The KMH file is named exactly as the original. The original files have to stay in that same foleder for them to work. The KMH file is only a header for Hoster to find and play the original file. You cannot remove the original or it will not work.
By the way you do not have to unzip them anymore either. Hoster will use the zipped files (with the KMH file) now.
None of this is transferred to your KMA folder. However when you import them the folder you are importing from is added to the songs database list.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by ddouglass

For KMH a file is added to the folder where the original file is located. This file is only 256 bytes. The KMH file is named exactly as the original. The original files have to stay in that same foleder for them to work. The KMH file is only a header for Hoster to find and play the original file. You cannot remove the original or it will not work.
By the way you do not have to unzip them anymore either. Hoster will use the zipped files (with the KMH file) now.
None of this is transferred to your KMA folder. However when you import them the folder you are importing from is added to the songs database list.

Thank you Dale. Also I guess I was correct in the fact that I don't have choice as far as importing them as kMA instead of KMH?

Walt

[ddouglass]

You are correct. Any file that has been compressed already (MP3, MP3+G, WMA, WMA+G, ZIP) has to be imported as a KMH. That goes for any video files too. If they are BIN or WAV then they import as KMA and get compressed at that time. Hoster doesn't recompress the other types so they went to the KMH setup.

[Roy Dennis]

There is one option if you want to import them as KMA files. If you have Songverter you can convert them to Bin files first then import them as kma then you can delete the Bin files to recover the hard drive space.

[ddouglass]

However, either way is going to take up roughly the same amount of space.

[WaltR]

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis

There is one option if you want to import them as KMA files. If you have Songverter you can convert them to Bin files first then import them as kma then you can delete the Bin files to recover the hard drive space.

I like this idea because then I can keep all files in the same folder. At this point I don't have any interest in videos so I don't have any reason to keep the files in seperate folders, unless I am missing something. This brings me to another question. When using Microstudio and importing KMA files to write a disk, does Microstudion change the files back to cdg? The reason I am asking is because when I make disks this way they play in karaoke players and I thought KMA wouldn't play in anything but MTU products.

[Roy Dennis]

Yes it Converts them to cdg format exactly the same as a conventional karaoke disc but leaves your original files as they were.
If you wanted to do it this way you could make a cd+g disk from your mp3+g files then import those as kma's, the only thing then is you would have to type all the title's and artist names in manually which you don't have to when you import hard drive files.

[Lonman]

Originally Posted by WaltR

I like this idea because then I can keep all files in the same folder. At this point I don't have any interest in videos so I don't have any reason to keep the files in seperate folders, unless I am missing something. This brings me to another question. When using Microstudio and importing KMA files to write a disk, does Microstudion change the files back to cdg? The reason I am asking is because when I make disks this way they play in karaoke players and I thought KMA wouldn't play in anything but MTU products.

Just move the downloaded song after you unzip it to your regular music folder and then import from there. No separate folders.
If you convert to bin, you will be compressing further an already compressed file (depending on the orginal rip could be very audibly noticeable) when you reimport as a kma. Converting to bin does nothing to decompress a file. Nor does burning to disc and reimporting that way, same thing would happen - compressing an already (originally) compressed file which again could be very audibly noticeable.

[WaltR]

Thanks guys, great info.