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Key Change With Microstudio
I'm trying to change the key in several songs and with the key changes, make a cdg disk. Everytime I try this, the cdg disk I make has the song back to the original key. Isn't version 4.22 capable of this task or is it me doing something wrong?
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The key change in Microstudio is just for play and does not save to the song file. It does record in the changed key if you use that feature, but the recorded song is audio only (wma).
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Dale Douglass 2nd Generation Karaoke I am not a member of the MTU Staff.
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You need to get "Keywrite" to change the key & then create your disk with MicroStudio.
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Thank you Skybird74. I was aware of that and should have included it in my post. I was hoping there was a way to do this without running through another program. Maybe I'll put this request in as a new feature. Thanks, Walt |
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When you add Keyrite, you see an extra Tab at the top of MicroStudio, so in essence, it becomes part of MS. If all the add-ons are included, then MS would be more expensive. This way each person can purchase just the programs they use. Not everyone cares about key changes. I know I couldn't live without it.
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Walt, they are not going to add that to MS because they do have Keyrite. They also give those who do like to manipulate the songs a choice to buy all 4 programs (Microsoft, Keyrite, Vogone, and KHPro) at a discount.
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Dale Douglass 2nd Generation Karaoke I am not a member of the MTU Staff.
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Thank you. I understand that and have all of the programs. Walt |
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Even if you use Keyrite from within Microstudio, you must save the change in Keyrite and then add the changed song to Microstudio's Write list to burn it.
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Dale Douglass 2nd Generation Karaoke I am not a member of the MTU Staff.
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I need a little bit of time to clarify this, but if I am not mistaken, I think that in both cases they are the same. In other word the machinces that say they have whole steps are actually half steps on the musical scale. If you are going from a key of C to a key of D you would go +2 on Hoster and the machine, because there is a C Sharp step in between. Consider that there are 12 notes (steps) in one octave. If you drop a song 7 "whole steps" according to what they are saying, then that would be 14 steps in Hoster or more than an octave. That can't be right. As far as the differences between sounds of the changes that is going to happen, because of differences in electronics components or software code, depending on what type of karaoke "machine" you are talking about. If they have a disc copy of the song with the key change they want sounding right to them and you have that song already on your computer then you should be able to just import it as a "Custom Assembly" brand so you can destinguish it changed. Just don't import any of their's that you don't already own.
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Dale Douglass 2nd Generation Karaoke I am not a member of the MTU Staff.
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Walt, if you're like me you probably don't know the difference between a "C" & a "D". Many "real musicians" like Dale have explained these 6 steps to me this way - Because 6 steps is an "Octave, when a singer comes up & asks for something up or down 6 steps, I simply tell them to play in it's natural key & then use their "high or low" voice, accordingly. The average karaoke singer doesn't understand "keys" any better than I do but may have a good ear to sing on key, so this works without a lengthy explanation. And they usually thank me, too!
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Thanks for your input but I do understand the difference between keys. Working as a professional KJ, I have a responsibility to try to accomodate my singers to the best of my ability and what is reasonable. I know that many are novices but many are very good and they know what key they need to sing in to cover the range of the song and give their best performance possible. To tell them to sing an octave lower or higher would be a grave injustice to them. If they know enough to bring their own disk or request key changes they obviously know they can't sing the song to their satifaction or with confidence in the normal key. I sing when I do my shows and I change the key to songs that I know will provide me with the best performance. If I go to another KJ's show and I decide to sing, I would only do so if I knew the key was going to be changed to my satisfaction. Please keep in mind, I am not talking about those singers that we all have attend our shows that can't carry a tune in a bucket. I am talking about people that are decent singers. Key change is a great tool and I know it has limitations. I was just explaining what I was trying to do to make the changes needed. Thanks again, Walt |
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I am talking about 7 half steps. But my point is that two machines I have from Acesonic does not have the same intervals as each other. In other words, if I use key change on one machine, say 2 down, the other machine at 2 down is not the same key as the first one. I know that some machines are whole step intervals and some are half step. I understand the difference in sounds due to the electronics which is really the most noticed in backround vocals. If you raise or lower the songs to much, the back round vocals don't sound realistic. I understand that I can import the cd but keep in mind as I mentioned, hoster is 5 and I need 6 or 7 in some cases. I can get their buy using key change as I explained above but it is to time consuming to do it on the job if I need to go lower than hoster's capability. I was just explaining what I was trying to achieve and how I was going about it. This is probably very unusual but I run into these request ocassionaly. I have a couple of singers that need key changes down much more than most. If hoster could drop 7 instead of 5, I wouldn't even be talking about this. I am sure MTU has a reason to limit it to 5 steps and I would guess that it is due to the effects on backround singers. I wish all the manufactures of karaoke equipment would follow the same standard with key changes. I think they should all be in half step intervals. Walt |
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Here is how you do what you are trying to do:
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Dale Douglass 2nd Generation Karaoke I am not a member of the MTU Staff.
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