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Old August 25th, 2003, 01:53 PM
pcgumshoe pcgumshoe is offline
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Vogone is a hit and miss thing. When it is a hit, it's a real hit.

For example, there is a song done by Tenacious D called "TRIBUTE" I had a lot of requests for Tenacious D and the only song of theres that existed was "Wonderboy." In that I have an odd crowd, but fun, I set out to see if I could devocalize the original.

Most of the music is guitar and then there are the singers (who I wanted to get rid of). So, I plugged the song into Vogone and ran it through the mill. Usually, if the default settings don't give the desired results, I don't bother hoping that I can reduce anything else by adjusting at all...

Well, I ran this soung through and it sounds great. The vocals are minimized almost to no existance. I used Sonic Foundry's Sound Forge to edit thing that I wanted to keep. I keept the accapella "bop" number as well as the devil's lines. I cut them and pasted them into the devocalized version.

I think one might call me of the old school because I try to synch a song in one play through. KPro has the ability to edit AFTER you have tapped in the song synch, but I try to do it right the first time.

Now, when you get a song that doesn't work in Vogone, I wouldn't even try to continue. If, however, you don't mind hearing more of the background singer, then fine. If there is Echo in the original recording, this echo cannot be removed from the end product in Vogone.

Here is a simple way to look at how Vogone works. Vogone compares the two audio channels (left and right) whatever is the same, it eliminates and then puts the left and right channels back. Most vocals and Bass Drums are centered between the left and right channel, hence they should come through both channels equally. Echo causes the vocal patern to be spread around between the channels and therefore it is hard to eliminate it from the original recording.

You might notice as well that the finished product will have diminished Bass... just goes with the territory. I believe that MTU has some algorythms that they use to help better reduction of vocals versus bass and theirs is the superior product for price and ease of use, but it all comes down to the original recording.

I am left manufacturing my own music using Reason and Sonar. I have made some excelent songs this way and it makes my show very unique. In the United States, I have the biggest collection of Broadway/Showtunes. I have added songs from very obscure plays and movies that my crowd rather enjoys.

Hope this is helpful.
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