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Old September 13th, 2010, 10:47 PM
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Re: Problem with adjust lyrics in KHPro 5.0

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Originally Posted by stritti View Post
By mistake I already placed this thread in the KHPro Test section. I think here it is right:

I have a problem with adjusting single words which worked great in previous versions. Now the start < > will make the sweeping of the word longer or shorter and is not moving it backwards/forwards. Ctrl+< or ctrl+shift+> does not have any effect. Maybe because I'm working with a German keyboard layout (but was working in the past).

Maybe for future release to use < and > to move a word backwards/forwards and + and - to make the sweeping longer/shorter.
In the moment I cannot use this function anymore.

Wolfgang from Germany
Wolfgang, thank you for your feedback.

FIRST...
Have you read the instructions in the Manual? Please forgive me if you have, but I believe the changes we made from how it used to work may be confusing you. I spent a lot of time trying to make it clear how it now works.

1. We now only allow adjusting the highlight on ONE word at a time, no longer multiple selected words at a time.

2. The < and > move the LEADING EDGE of the highlight for the selected word to highlight earlier or later respectively.

3. You can't use < to move the highlight leading edge further to the left than the end of the highlight on the last word on the line above. If you need to do this, adjust the trailing edge on the highlight of the last word on the line above, then adjust it for the first word on the line below. You can use > to move the highlight leading edge to start later.

4. The Ctrl + < and > move the TRAILING EDGE the same as above.

5. You can't use Ctrl+> to move the trailing edge of the highlight on the last word on a line further than the leading edge of the highlighting on the first word on the line below. If you need to do this, first move the leading edge of the highlight on the first word on the line below, then adjust it for the last word on the line above. The Ctrl+< will allow adjusting the trailing edge to start earlier.

I hope this helps you understand why these adjuster keys act as they do.

We have never (as I recall) had a way to "move a word", other than click and drag the word to change its order in the sentence. I also don't recall we ever used "ctrl+shift+>".


SECOND...
You wrote: "Maybe for future release to use < and > to move a word backwards/forwards and + and - to make the sweeping longer/shorter."

I don't understand what you mean by move the "word" backwards/forwards. The "words" don't move, only the highlight timing in relation to the music. Maybe you could explain this further if I am wrong.

Also, it is important to move the LEADING EDGE or the TRAILING EDGE of the highlighting. I don't understand what you mean by making it "longer/shorter". Again, maybe you can explain this further.


THIRD...
Initially, IN THE ADJUST SCREEN ONCE YOU STOP PLAY OR SELECT A WORD, we tried to make the line holding the selected word to appear in the center of the screen, and the "Adjust Area" words to always appear on ONE display page on the line with the selected word, or the lilne above it or the line below it, but all "activity" happening only on one screen.

We were not able to make this happen.

The problem is seen the worst where the selected word is the first (or last) on a page. In this case, you will always see the prior page words draw and the "Adjust Area" words highlight, then the next page (with the selected first word) draws and highlights across the selected word and the "Adjust Area" following it.

This action forces your eyes to jump from the bottom right of the prior page to the top left of the page with the selected word. This is optically confusing, and I was shocked I ever let it out working that way.

However, after a week of time trying to get the "selected line" to draw center screen and failing, we abandoned this and left it as it has been.


I look forward to you addressing my points. I hope my explanation will make it clear how it now works.

We are prepared to make small changes, but not re-engineer the entire Adjust Lyrics operation. The vast majority of our users never edit. They simply place the lyrics again (I addressed this in the manual).

However, I would like for you to be able to use version 5.00.
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