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Old January 13th, 2010, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by WaltR View Post
Ok, let me try to explain what I am trying to do. I should probably start a new thread but since this is related I'll give it a go. In Microstudion I selected a song that I have in Hoster. I needed to get this particular song down more than the 5 steps Hoster provides. What I ended up doing was using Keyrite in Microstudio and dropped the key 5 steps. I saved the result. I then recalled it again in Keyrite. The song was now 5 steps lower. I then dropped it 2 more steps to give me the 7 steps down I was looking for. I had hoped to import this final result back into Hoster. So far I have not been able to figure this out because Hoster will not import a kma file from the harddrive or at least I haven't figured out how to do it. The only other way I know that may work is if I burned the song on a disk and then try to import it into Hoster that way, which I haven't tried as of yet. My hopes were to do this in as few steps as possible which presently it appears I can't do. I realize that dropping a song that low isn't often needed and comes with some undesirable results, depending on the song, but there are times I need this. To carry this out a little further, let me explain. I have a couple of singers that request songs down 6 or 7 steps and some bring there disk with them. I can drop the song down 5 steps in Hoster then drop it 2 more with my external mixer. The problem is the result isn't always the same as the singer was expecting. Some karaoke players have the ability to drop or raise keys further than Hoster allows. The problem I have when dropping the song in Hoster then again with an external machine, it isn't always where the singer wants the key because Hoster drops the key in half step intervals I believe and some machines drop them in whole step intervals (I may have this backwards). I have two machines of different models made by the same company and when a song is dropped or raised they aren't the same key on both of the machines. They are identical in the neutral position but when changing the keys these machines differ so the 7 steps down I was seeking does not necessarily match what the singer was looking for. Hope this isn't to confusing but at this point I think I am confusing myself. Wow.

Walt
Walt,
I need a little bit of time to clarify this, but if I am not mistaken, I think that in both cases they are the same. In other word the machinces that say they have whole steps are actually half steps on the musical scale. If you are going from a key of C to a key of D you would go +2 on Hoster and the machine, because there is a C Sharp step in between. Consider that there are 12 notes (steps) in one octave. If you drop a song 7 "whole steps" according to what they are saying, then that would be 14 steps in Hoster or more than an octave. That can't be right.
As far as the differences between sounds of the changes that is going to happen, because of differences in electronics components or software code, depending on what type of karaoke "machine" you are talking about.
If they have a disc copy of the song with the key change they want sounding right to them and you have that song already on your computer then you should be able to just import it as a "Custom Assembly" brand so you can destinguish it changed. Just don't import any of their's that you don't already own.
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