I have a CD thermal printer in my studio. It a "Primera" brand duplicator. I can burn and thermal print graphics in one application of my good stuff. I also have a shrink wrap process i use as well. No what i do...is when i'm going out to a friends karaoke show to visit, i run my own backup disc of the songs i'm going to sing that evening with microstudio. Then i simply print the song numbers and titles on that disc with lightscribe. When i get home, i take a sharp object, scratch the top off, and throw away the disc. Next time, i visit, i repeat the process with different songs. I was just curious why a lightscribe disc wouldn't work in 4.11 was all. I have since tried dales method of duping the disc first, flipping it over, then doing the titles...works. However i have since taken 4.11 back off my studio computer. And am using my older version.