thanx MTUSUPPORT
tried that already, was one of the first things i tried after browsing thru the forums a little more and seeing the "tech" section..
d/l'd and ran all 3 programs recommended in the other section and am running the latest..
i think i'm gonna have to go the Plextor route..grab one of their latest and greatest..
i've got 6 systems running here so what's one more piece of hardware right..
thanx again..DA