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Old March 15th, 2004, 11:36 AM
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I combined your two threads as they are one subject

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Originally posted by Denis Auger
Well, I did try myself to burn into a CD with the CDG format, and it does not work. I thought it was my CD Burner: Yamaha 3200E-VK model. But after testing and verifying that my CD Burner could read and write CD + G format, my masterpiece was just a piece of carbage on the screen.

By the way, I was told by many all professional music editors, that in order to play on any other karaoke machine player, you need to convert CDG to BIN format.

Now what can I say! Their are professiononal since I did not know that, I am new at this...
Professionals say BIN must be used? They may be music pros, but they know nothing about the Karaoke CDG formats! George's answer above is correct. The .cdg extension that MTU uses, which we created, is exactly the track format on a CDG disc. Be aware that some programs that work with MP3+G formats title their "G" files .cdg also. However, they are not. The true CDG format, as found on a CDG disc, contains the music, not just the RW codes as their "cdg" format files do. That format was evolved to support the theft focused crack sites, which toolz was one of the leaders in the crack tool theft software.

The .bin extension is NOT a safe industry standard. It is NORMALLY used for making entire disc backups, not for individual tracks. As such, to have a single track with a .bin extension, when you can also have an entire disc image with the same .bin extension, clearly is not safe. A file extension, to be a standard, can ONLY relate to one file type. FYI: .bin can also be used for a CDROM disc image, which has nothing at all to do with Karaoke CDGs format.

The softwares you mentioned are - to my knowledge - crack tools. Thus, you got what you paid for. Please, don't compare professional software like Microstudio to crack tools that are no longer available.

If you want to use software that supports the .bin extension, CDRWIN is the author of the .bin extension. They have a free demo you can download and use. However, they too will have the same problem Microstudio is having with your Yamaha.

The problem you are relating about your Yamaha is EXACTLY why MTU stopped shipping Yamaha drives. There are some who believe this is a good drive, but our experience, reconfirmed here, proves different.

Microstudio, with a stable CDG Certified CD Burner, will properly import individual tracks, play them and write .cdg files (imported from CDG disc tracks or made from KHP) to a new disc.

Your delima has been repeated in these Forums many, many times. Microstudio, a Plextor CDG Certified drive, and KHP will work together to do exactly what you want to do.

That is why we sell CDG Certified drives, to GUARANTEE you that when you buy from MTU, it will do CDG work. Yamaha stopped properly supporting the CDG format commands back with their 8024 model, which was the last we tried to sell of their drives.

OK, mlepine, I'm sure you have something to say on this subject, but read the facts in this post, and the software being used. Try to stick to the facts in this Thread.

What can I say? Your other crack toolz programs don't properly support the true .bin or .cdg format. There are MANY, MANY, MANY users who simply use Windows Explorer to change our .cdg file extension to .bin and then write our KHP created songs out with CDRWIN to a CDR drive. HEY!!!! Did you ever stop to wonder why your crack tools are no longer available? Maybe it is because the don't care to fix their problems and the support and ugly emails became overwhelming. That's ususally why someone drops a product.

Also, please be aware that George is correct about the MEDIA. If you use bad media, you will also get carbage (or rather garbage) on the screen. CDG Karaoke Players are very unforgiving... but I doubt if your "professional music" friends know that either.
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