[jaddams]

Originally posted by Mlepine”
My Last Comment
Sorry but pherd is absolutely correct.

Tsk…tsk…tks.

What a shame Mlepine that this is your last comment, I for one, like your contributions to the forum. Remember how we met? It was about your position concerning MIDI files and some of us pushing for the Edirol Sound Canvass. I don’t have to relieve that scenario since your position has been clearly stated, since that discussion, about the superiority of Edirol.

I always find myself reading your post more than once, sometimes trying to understand your point, for example: Out of the blue and after telling everybody about the Plextor burners for karaoke then ZAP! You come up with the AOpen line It’s a good drive line yes, but badly misleading.

You see, although AOpen offer 17 different CD burners, only FIVE of those support the Karaoke Standard. Five that are manufacture for AOpen by Ricoh, The model 7040, which must have firmware 120 or higher, the 7060, 7080, 8040 and 9060.

That’s it may friend. If an AOpen does not have one of those engines by Ricoh IT WILL NOT DO KARAOKE. In my opinion, it’s unprofessional to make statements to potential customers of MTU OR any other company unless you have all the facts.

Your statement above which began this post really took me for a loop not because of what you said but because of the arrogance you use to say it.

Originally posted by Mlepine Sorry but pherd is absolutely correct.

Just who the keck made you an authority to decide who is right and who is wrong about a product?

Are you both the only ones right and the rest of some great computer users below all wrong?

Originally posted by Nreel (Nov. 25, 2003)
I created a new output file, three (-3) keys down, using 2.008 and compared the two. The File created with a previous version of Keyrite has a VERY Prominent Wobble in the Bass. The file created with 2.008 has no noticeable wobble in the BASS.[

I put my Stamp of Approval on this Version.

Originally posted by MikeP (Nov. 25, 2003)
Upgraded and tested. Everything's OK and getting better all the time!
I have been using a lot of wav files for my testing and have not had any problem with this or any previous version.

Originally posted by Lauraine Graham (Nov 25, 2003)
It's a go as far as I am concerned. Very well done all, and thanks for the advice.

Originally posted by Gduns – (Nov 25, 2003)
Downloaded and repaired......
results are as follows
+5 = e
+4 = e flat
+3 = d
+2 = c#
+1 = c
0 = b
-1 = b flat
-2 = a
-3 = g#
-4 = g
-5 = f#

all tones were solid, and showed no oscillations which were present in previous versions. (Wavering)

In My opinion this is a done deal.

Great job MTU good product. I believe no one will be able to complain on this one.

Originally posted by Gduns – (Nov 25, 2003)
Just did the second computer same results...... Let’s hear it for the home team.
BTW:
If you ever want to fine tune it down the road, on the little miniscule differences. drop me an e-mail

Originally posted by Kjrew – Nov 25, 2003
Admin,

I have been testing 2008 for about 2 1/2 hours and your programmer is very, very close. The quiver is almost gone on the -#s but is still noticeable on the +#s. As a matter of fact, I could live with this version because I never use the + keys. (But then that's me). I tried 'The Lady in Red' on all the keys and there was NO QUIVER. But not so with Bob Seger's 'Turn the Page'. On -2 & -3 it was next to very clean, -4 &-5 quiver in the low range, -1 quiver ib the 2000Htz range, all +keys quiver was audible and different speeds. I tried 7 other songs and most of them were about the same. BUT CLOSE TO PERFECT!

[i]Originally posted by Gduns – Nov. 25, 2003)[i/]

Ron,
I tried it several octaves up and down & don’t get the quiver , it was manifesting itself as a oscillation between keys. This version is rock solid. More than of the quality of which they are pricing it at.[/color I say let it go and get on with improving the other products so as to get them out by the holiday season. Then we can come back and beat this dead horse to death. I have a keyboard and a synth with 850 voices on it. I will try it over the thanksgiving weekend and report back. But this product is rock solid. NO QUIVER..... Look at the sound card it may be a source. I have tried this on 2 computers and got the same results. One with win 2000, and 1 with up. Lets let this kid be born!!!!

Originally posted by Mlepine – Nov 25, 2003)
[color]I would say that most keys in the - are by far superior than any previous version, it keeps improving all the time, but is the goal to bring it to the same level of EAX?

My preferred key which is the -1 still has quivering not much but unfortunately it does! With Donna where you have more of a constant bass I can hear the instability of the signal and also on the back vocals.

Again, I just don't like to repeat this but until you do get THE PERFECT STABLE signal it's really impossible not to hear this quivering.

To me, most keys in the + suffers from this quivering and also an unpleasant sound. I'm very surprised that not many people complain about it!

I just don't know how far you wish to go but I was under the impression that we're done after last night? The best would be to correct some of the + keys before it is available to everyone and maybe fine tune it later... It's still better than before.

If I go back to my question regarding EAX, I think you will need to continue to work on it if it is in fact your goal? It's a high step with all respect & it will need more adjustment and more time because once you get there your done, it I'll be perfect!

Originally posted by Admin – Nov. 25, 2003)
Folks, I appreciate all the input here. Ron, your theory is closer than you may think, but don't want to disclose proprietary info here.

I don't think we can get any further with this core algorithm. The next major upgrade will be to add Formant Frequency Correction. This will key shift vocals (main and/or background) correctly, so the singer sounds correctly singing in the new key. That will carry a major price increase.

[quote]Originally posted by Mlepine – Nov 24, 2003 [b]
I'm presently out of town (Toronto) in my Hotel room with no high speed and I just installed this version.

Using my Dell Inspiring PIII with an audio chip (Crystal WDM) and a pair of Beyer dynamic, I can say it sounds right!
I only have 2 Wave tracks that I made sure to bring with me before leaving (Sorry not 1 kHz track!!) but O Carol & Donna,

I will of course give it a better test on Friday but I'm confident that it will only sound better than my audio chip!

I'm trying VERY hard at trying to hear some quivering and I'm not sure I can hear any so I can't imagine anyone performing live that would complain about this key changer.

Well Done & LET'S MOVE ON!

Originally Posted by Unreel – Nov 24, 2003
Installed by Modify on both computers – All went well.

+4 to +5 have distinct difference when changing between the two.

I do not have a means to test with instrumentation as other Beta testers are doing, and I thank them for their professionalism.

My hearing tells me that this version has a MARKED improvement in the overall quality of all Key Changed Sounds.

I am, especially, happy with the +1 and -1 keys as these two positions are used the most.

Even on my in-house machine, with the cheap on-board Audio, the sound is good.

My machine, with the Audi, sounds so much better and Keyrite is, now, comparable to the EAX Consol key changer.

Kudos to your programmer! I have a MTU Key Changer I can use.

And, thanks to MTU for being patient, during this process, in holding out for the best.

Originally posted by George – Nov 24, 2003 [b]
RELEASE...

Installed and functional on both pc's..

VIEW REGISTRATION WORKS

MANUAL IS CORRECT EDITION

CHECK MTU IS FUNCTIONAL

KEY CHANGE -5 THROUGH +5 NOW ALL WORKING

AUDIO IS CLEAN THROUGH ALL STAGES

BEST RMS LEVELS YET:
TRACK #1-ORIGINAL TRACK RMS LEVEL...0.2218
KEYED TRACK RMS LEVEL...0.2208

TRACK #2-ORIGINAL TRACK RMS LEVEL...0.1022
KEYED TRACK RMS LEVEL...0.998

Just thought MTU should know how slight the DOWNWARD shift in audio is.

[b]

Originally posted by Gduns – Nov 24, 2003
the 3 hz off is really not that bad.... it still is pretty close. in fact you might say im splitting hairs. But I just wanted to give a good report. I never even thought of using the chromatic tuner before. but it does show rock solid on all the tones except the -3, and a marked improvement in the +4 -- +5

Does anybody get the picture?

Enough said!

Sincerely,

Jon