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Old April 28th, 2003, 04:33 AM
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Cool Come on guys, AND gals, let's stick to the issues!!!!

Jahern, George,

You guys are good! So good that you have me completely confused!

It appears to me, that we’re so fixed, in trying to prove who’s better at diagnosing problems that we lose all tracks of the problems presented by those seeking help.

This is no good, because in doing so, we tend to confuse the issues rather than to help solve the problem.

This thread was started by Strait with the following;
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Hi, I am having problems to see the Lyrics in microstudio Just getting a black square but no lyrics if i try to play them of the Hard Drive.
Thank You

A simple problem, right?

No! No so simple, as Strait didn’t give any clue as to what type of file he was trying to play in MicroStudio. All he stated was that “he was having problems to see lyrics in MicroStudio, and he was just getting a black square but no lyrics.” He didn’t tell us whether he was hearing music or not.

That problem, immediately points to a CDG being extracted with a non-compliant CD Burner. With that in mind, I answered Strait with the following:
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Strait,
You may not have any lyrics to see. Which CDROM do you have?

Please read the following post and perhaps you can answer some of the questions listed there:

http://forum.mtu.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2157

Regards,

Jon
In my opinion, we should have waited for Strait’s answer as He was the only one that could tells us how the song or songs he was trying to play got into his hard drive. Instead of waiting, we decided to come up with all kinds of possible alternatives, all without value, because we didn’t know where the song, or songs, originated.

It doesn’t matter diddle squat how he got the songs into his hard drive, what matter is that for one to extract a CDG song from a karaoke disk, one must have a CD burner capable of extracting both, the music and the graphics on that song, hence the importance of the CD burner.
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posted by Jahern Are these files saved to the hard drive?
He already said he was trying to play the song from the hard drive. They MUST have been saved there first, don’t you think?

Let me continue for a bit with Jahern’s first quote...
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If you are playing the files from the hard drive, (as you say) then the cd-rom is not important. How did you get the files onto the hard drive?

Good question Jahern, How did he get that song into his hard drive? Was the ripping CD Rom karaoke compliant?
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Continuing Jahern’s Microstudio does not play wave files so if you are indeed playing from the hard drive and going dark, then we have a problem.
Of course he has a problem, that why he posted in the first place.

The rest of the quote is meaningless because. In this case, his problem has nothing to do with DirectX or video card. Everything begins with the song being extracted with a karaoke compliant CD burner.
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Originally posted by George It cannot be said Microstudio will not play .WAV files. It WILL play a .WAV file directly from the cdr/cdrw drive. You get the audio and a black screen.

I am sorry George, but to the best of my knowledge, MicroStudio, DOES NOT play WAV files directly from the CDR/CDRW drive!

When you place a regular CDROM disk on your CD player or burner, whether it is a regular CD or a Karaoke CDG. MicroStudio will play it. But, YOU ARE NOT playing a WAV file. All CD Disks use the extension CDA which means “Compact Digital Audio,” which MicroStudio, reads with no problems, however CDA IS NOT WAV.
WAV is nothing but a format for storing audio files. This format was created by Microsoft and IBM so long ago, that it was incorporated in Windows 95. WAV is a short name for “waveform” which is a digital representation of an analog waveform.

IF YOU EXTRACT a CD soundtrack, using MicroStudio, as a WAV file, and then burn JUST the WAV file into a CD, you could play THAT CD using Windows Media Player, BUT if you try to play it with MicroStudio, you will get a blank screen AND nothing else. No music, nada, zilch, zero!!!!!!!!

In short, MicroStudio will play the soundtrack of a regular CD, karaoke or otherwise, but it will no play JUST a WAV file, at least not in my computer.

Let me insert here a quote from the MicroStudio manual:
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The Play Tab button does not function if the tracks are WAV files (WAV Button selected). The Play Tab only plays Karaoke CDG files.
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Initially posted by Jahern I keyed in on the fact that Strait said he was playing from the hard drive. It may surprise some Microstudio users to know that once cdg files are on the hard drive, and they can get there in some ways without a compliant burner, Microstudio will play the files just fine. It doesn't matter if the current burner is compliant or not. (or even if there is a burner or even if there is a cd-rom)

How can you get both “music and lyrics” into a hard drive, without a complaint CD Burner? I’d love to hear the answer to that one. We are talking here about regular folks extracting files from their CDG’s, NOT studio engineers!!!

In closing, I ONLY have one suggestion.

Most of us (those helping MTU support) are senior members (welcome to the group Jahern, ) We are senior member NOT BECAUSE we are karaoke or software gurus, we are senior members because we have taken our time to try to help others, and in doing so, we have built our number of posts.

We have built our number of post because we have gotten involved in answering questions by trying to help those that have a bit less understanding than we do, and in doing so, we have gotten to know MTU programs fairly well.

So, when someone comes up with a problem, lets try to keep to the basics and try to address the problem or problems at hand without trying to upstage each other.

In Strait’s case, he did not give us anything to go on, so I directed him to a post that would give him some ideas as to the kind of information we were seeking in trying to help him.

TO THIS DATE, HE HAS NOT ANSWERED MY ORIGINAL QUESTIONS

Makes me wonder, whether he needed assistance or not!

Just in case Strait, and I know you WILL RECEIVE A NOTICE OF THIS POST:
[quote]Originally posted by me
Strait,

You may not have any lyrics to see. Which CDROM do you have?

Please read the following post and perhaps you can answer some of the questions listed there:

http://forum.mtu.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2157

Where are your Strait?

How about post number 2 from you?

Best regards to all,

Jon


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