[Robster]

Thanks Roy ...antivirus is disabled , even the wifi card is disabled when running a show , all the changes on here for vista have been done, i do a defrag and disc clean up before every show.

It is really random and not very often , it seems to occur just when a track finishes , its in man mode not auto and it just crashes , start it up again and it just works can go 10 gigs without it doing it and its not track dependant. It just really random!

I don't think it will allow me to upgrade for free.

just wondered if anyone knew easily what this fault was , guessed it would be one i will never figure out or sort and have to live with.