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jmw@thewnet.com June 16th, 2007 05:12 PM

Copying and burning CD+G disks
 
I would like to know if Hoster, or any of your software, will allow me to copy cd+G disks to a hard drive and then when I want to make a new copy of that disk, copy it (burn it) back to a blank CD. In effect, duplicate the cd+g disk from a copy stored on a hard drive.

Lonman June 16th, 2007 05:25 PM

Microstudio is what you want!

Beavis June 17th, 2007 09:13 AM

i dont think you can copy (burn) back to disks after you import them into hoster.

i dont use microstudio but im pretty sure it will copy cd-g's

why would you want to put a cd-g on your hard drive ? its a pretty big file.

jmw@thewnet.com June 17th, 2007 01:18 PM

Why copy cd+g to hard drive
 
I do not want to use my original CD+G disks, I want to use copies of them. I want to keep the originals on a hard drive so I can use it to make any new copies of my CD+G. That way I should never have to touch my originals except in emergencys.

George June 17th, 2007 01:47 PM

Microstudio will do what you want.

Beavis has a good point regarding the size of a cdg file. Average 40-50 mg per song.

Another thing to consider is accessability. Normally as you import tracks to be saved on the hard drive, they are saved alphabetically. Now you're into hunt and peck to burn a duplicate disc.

Microstudio would solve that logistic problem. After importing a cdg disc to the hard drive, you could use the custom assembly feature and save them by the MFG. disc I.D. number. Then they could be easily recalled by Microstudio as a unit and a new disc burned.

Why not consider using Microstudio to do a disc copy, store the original, and only use it when the copy gets funky and a new copy needs to be made? Saves tons of hard drive space.

Another option, if you're talking a large number of songs is to use Hoster Lite, and play the tracks from a computer. Tracks imported iinto Hoster Lite are in a compressed format and don't take near the room as uncompressed files.

If you did that ,you could still use Microstudio to make custom discs to take to a show with the songs you want to sing, if you're into the Karaoke Club scene.

Several options, but your call, of course, depending on your needs.

mindonstrike June 18th, 2007 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beavis (Post 63213)
i dont think you can copy (burn) back to disks after you import them into hoster.

i dont use microstudio but im pretty sure it will copy cd-g's

why would you want to put a cd-g on your hard drive ? its a pretty big file.

The newest Microstudio will convert a KMA back to bin and burn it to a disk. I use it when I go to someone elses show and want to take a compilation disk with me. You can search for songs by title, artist or file name (alphabetize by diskid). Does lots of other things too.
Works quite well. A steal at only $40

Sam

jmw@thewnet.com June 18th, 2007 09:05 AM

Gave Microstudio a try
 
Thanks for the feedback from everyone, I really appreciate it.

I downloaded Microstudio and did an eval on it. And it will do everything I think I want it to do, however, after I ripped 3 songs from a CD+G and saved them to the hard drive, when I tried to play them back they did not always show the words and they did not always playback well. Sometimes the music would sound "jumpy". I had also burned those same 3 songs to a CD+G and the same thing occurred on them. What was strange is that some times the song would play as it should (from both the hard drive drive and the CD+G I burned) and some times it wouldn't.

I also downloaded PowerCD Burner and PowerCD Player. I did the same thing with it and everything played back fine. However, I also used PowerCD Player to playback the songs I had ripped and burned with Microstudio and all of those songs played back without a problem. So it looks like there is a problem with the playback on Microstudio. Is the demo of Microsudio playback crippled in some way and that is what caused the problem or is it because of my CD Burner which is a Memorex?

I like the Microstudio design (both burner and player in one application) I also like the search feature, but I am concerned about the playback capability. Does anyone know why the playback doesn't always work properly? Does anyone also know of any drawbacks I should be concerned about on PowerCD Burner or Player or does anyone know of some features Microstudio has that PowerCD Burner/Player doesn't have?

ddouglass June 18th, 2007 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmw@thewnet.com (Post 63225)
Thanks for the feedback from everyone, I really appreciate it.

I downloaded Microstudio and did an eval on it. And it will do everything I think I want it to do, however, after I ripped 3 songs from a CD+G and saved them to the hard drive, when I tried to play them back they did not always show the words and they did not always playback well. Sometimes the music would sound "jumpy". I had also burned those same 3 songs to a CD+G and the same thing occurred on them. What was strange is that some times the song would play as it should (from both the hard drive drive and the CD+G I burned) and some times it wouldn't.

I also downloaded PowerCD Burner and PowerCD Player. I did the same thing with it and everything played back fine. However, I also used PowerCD Player to playback the songs I had ripped and burned with Microstudio and all of those songs played back without a problem. So it looks like there is a problem with the playback on Microstudio. Is the demo of Microsudio playback crippled in some way and that is what caused the problem or is it because of my CD Burner which is a Memorex?

I like the Microstudio design (both burner and player in one application) I also like the search feature, but I am concerned about the playback capability. Does anyone know why the playback doesn't always work properly? Does anyone also know of any drawbacks I should be concerned about on PowerCD Burner or Player or does anyone know of some features Microstudio has that PowerCD Burner/Player doesn't have?

The problem is probably updates. Try updating Windows using the custom update and update all. Also go to Memorex and make sure your firmware for the burner is up to date (Microstudio will tell you what version of firmware you have in the "Default Drive" window).

George June 18th, 2007 09:36 AM

You also probably need to install Microsoft's .NET FRAMEWORK...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/S...displaylang=en

ddouglass June 18th, 2007 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George (Post 63227)
You also probably need to install Microsoft's .NET FRAMEWORK...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/S...displaylang=en

Which he will see under the Custom updates.:g

George June 18th, 2007 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George (Post 63227)
You also probably need to install Microsoft's .NET FRAMEWORK...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/S...displaylang=en

Yes, but he may have already installed updates and not the .net framework. Just making sure he gets it.

jmw@thewnet.com June 18th, 2007 09:56 AM

Have the updates
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm a .net developer and so I have all of the .net frameworks installed starting at 1.0. I also keep my XP updated. However, I do not know about the Memorex firmware updates so I will check on that.

bryant June 18th, 2007 11:41 AM

Is the net framework required to be 1.0 or the newer 2.0?
Will 1.0 work, in other words.

George June 18th, 2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryant (Post 63232)
Is the net framework required to be 1.0 or the newer 2.0?
Will 1.0 work, in other words.

From the Computer Requirements on the Microstudio product description page.

"A Windows/PC computer with at least 2GB of free hard drive space. NOTE: Microstudio 4.001 and higher requires Windows Vista, or 2000+SR4, or XP Home/Pro/Media Center+SR2 with .NET Framework v1.1 or higher."

Garry A. Leslie June 19th, 2007 03:11 PM

Hey all,
Since I've had the latest version of Microstudio I have also noticed some idiosyncrasies.
I just ripped and then burnt a CDG disc and the copy wouldn't play in a regular
karaoke CDG player, said it couldn't read the format, which I was assured would still be cdg but turned out to be bin.
Regards from across the pond.
Garry


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