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songsmith August 29th, 2001 02:03 PM

Colour Combinations That Work Well
 
If you're like me, it is frustrating to find the right colour combinations. What looks like a good combination on the computer may appear washed out on the TV screen. Maybe we can post here the colour combinations that work well...
For Example:
Border-black-transparent
Background-black-transparent
TEXT STYLE - ARIAL - 22pnt. - bold - no shadow
TEXT COLOUR - R=5,G=11,B=0,Hue=92,Sat=100,Bri=73
SWEEP COLOUR - R=15,G=13,B=0,Hue=52,Sat=100,Bri=100

If we work together on this we can reduce the number of coasters we make experimenting !! :)

bose August 29th, 2001 02:43 PM

Here Are Some I Use...
 
Here are some of the colour schemes I use most often. I always have the background and the border the same colour, otherwise it looks stupid...

(BG) = Background
(TXT) = Text
(SWP) = Sweep

1 - (BG) Black (TXT) Yellow (SWP) Bright Pink
2 - (BG) Bright Blue (TXT) White (SWP) Bright Pink
3 - (BG) Light Blue (TXT) White with Black Border (SWP) Orange
4 - (BG) Black (TXT) Really Light Blue (SWP) Purple

Or if you need some more ideas, just look at all the karaoke discs already in the market. Sound Choice is always changing the colour schemes on the tracks, so you only need one Sound Choice disc to get a lot of ideas.

I'd recommend you avoid white sweeping into yellow, because it's barely noticeable. Take Music Maestro discs for example.

Bose

danny_g August 30th, 2001 12:14 AM

I use these settings:

background - black
text before sweep- red
text after sweep- white


I believe in the
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

formula for me.

I've also found the less lines per screen
you use the better it looks.
I use 2 lines on most of my songs or have started doing that since the last three songs I'v done in the last week or so.

davet September 4th, 2001 07:25 PM

colors
 
what about

background-black
wording-yellow
sweep-purple

sounds allright to me what about you lot

Dave

songsmith September 7th, 2001 01:55 PM

Thanks for your responces.
 
Thank you all for your posts. I tried the red to white sweep and found the red letters blurred making them difficult to read. Also please be specific on you colour sudgestions, there are many shades of red, maybe I used the wrong shade... thanks again.

songsmith September 7th, 2001 02:00 PM

A yellow sweep that looks almost brown on the computer monitor, ends up looking yellow still on the TV Monitor if your yellow seems too washed out, try using a deeper almost brown yellow.

George September 10th, 2001 05:23 PM

color variance
 
I was having color tint variance problems and wondered why things looked different on the tv than how I'd set them on the computer. Then the obvious walked up and kicked me in the teeth. My color settings on the tv(which are adjustable) were not set the same as the PC. It only took a few minutes to adjust the balance controls on the tv to get them pretty well in harmony with what was coming out of the pc, without affecting the overall tv programming.

I also find it is quite a bit easier on the singer to vary the settings used fom song to song.Much easier on the eyes than staring at the same color combinations for any length of time. Can also have some fun getting colors to set the mood for the song: purples for "Deep Purple".... red, white, and blue for "Stars And Stripes Forever" etc.

Take care,

George

Lauraine Graham- with the Lord September 11th, 2001 01:04 AM

Change Settings
 
It's very interesting seeing all the colour combinations that have been suggested; I actually like the default colours, except for the pale blue border. I tried changing the number of lines (and a few other things just to see what was what) but every time I go back to my song nothing is changed. Is there a particular sequence one must follow? Until I know how to change things I will be unable to take axdvantage of all these most helpful suggestions on colour combinations, but I have printed them off for future reference.

I think this is an excellent program. I am very much enjoying using it, and I am now at a stage where I shall be burning my first full disc. I am very excited about tjhe prospect of showing off my production to all my karaoke friends when I go my next gig on Friday.

songsmith September 11th, 2001 02:15 PM

Re: Change Settings
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lauraine Graham
I tried changing the number of lines (and a few other things just to see what was what) but every time I go back to my song nothing is changed. Is there a particular sequence one must follow? Until I know how to change things I will be unable to take axdvantage of all these most helpful suggestions on colour combinations, but I have printed them off for future reference.
Lauraine: You have to save the song with the new settings and view them with a program that will allow you to see the (CDG/BIN) file you have created. Don't use the play my song button to try and view changes because they will not show up there. The play my song button always seems to show in the default colours.

Hope this helps.

George September 12th, 2001 10:19 AM

Lauraine & Songsmith..I don't know the answer to the problem you guys are having, but you both have it. I have no difficulty what so ever in changing the colors while still in the KHP program and viewing those changes in "play my song". That does not automatically return to MTU'S color defaults. You should not have to save the file first and view it outside KHP, at least I sure don't. Not trying to upset you guys, but thought you should know something is not right.

Take care,

George

P.S. just picked up on something you said in your original post. I went out of the coaster business a while back by using CDRW's.
Do all the messing around on those until you get what you want then save to Microstudio, and then to a CDR. Unfortunately we can't erase CDRW's in Microstudio, so I have to use an adaptec software program to do that, but it still saves a lot of messing around. Just a tip..George

Lauraine Graham- with the Lord September 12th, 2001 07:30 PM

change settings
 
To George and Songsmith

Thank you very much for your prompt and helpful replies. I have taken what has been written and shall attempt to apply it.

Best wishes

Lauraine

songsmith September 27th, 2001 01:12 PM

a Ha !!! Thanks George.
 
I uninstalled khpro. and reinstalled the program. Now it is working the way it should and I thank you for your post. I was learning how to do quite well even with my old crippled software. I think my results will improve greatly now.:)

George September 28th, 2001 11:56 AM

Lauraine, just occured to me that a great many KHP sweep problems can be cured by making sure the pc is set to 16bit color. Would pay to also make certain whoever installed your video card went to the manufacturer's website and downloaded the latest drivers. The ones that come with the card software are not always current. MTU support would be better qualified for sure than me to help you in this area if you want to do it yourself to make certain. Neither of these may be the answer to your problem, but hopefully so.

Take care,

George

Lauraine Graham- with the Lord September 29th, 2001 05:20 AM

Colour Sweeping
 
My dear George

Thanks for your post. I have taken up your previous suggestion and altered the sweep delay thing. As usual you were quite correct! I wish I, too, had a brain; but I'd probably be dangerous.

Many thanks, dear George.

My very best wishes

Lauraine

admin October 2nd, 2001 12:28 AM

Settings are persistent!
 
Songsmith and Lauraine - Do you have Karaoke Home Producer V2.009 or V2.008?

V2.008 had a problem that the Change Settings button dialog box changes would not store to the hard drive (the file to receive them was set to Read Only :s).

This was fixed in V2.009. When you change settings and close the dialog box, they are changed. If you even exit the program and run it again, they are still changed. This is the correct behavior you should be seeing.

Lauraine Graham- with the Lord October 5th, 2001 02:44 AM

colours that work
 
Dear Admin

Thanks for your post, and my apologies for the delay. I have been away from my PC for a few days. In answer to your question, which version of KHP do I have, it is V2.008. I have discovered that I can change the settings, but not until AFTER I have placed my lyrics. This does restrict me to the 6 line format but I don't suppose that matters.

Many thanks for your reply. Best wishes

Lauraine

George October 14th, 2001 12:47 AM

Hi guys...you got me messing around with reliable color combinations and I've about decided the following combinations quite attractive as well as easy on the eyes, good contrasts, and good visibility without "smearing".

TEXT: a green using these paramaters;red 0, green 12,blue 0,
hue 120,sat 100, bright 80

Sweep: white using these paramaters; red 15,green 15, blue 14
hue 60, sat 6, bright 100

change borders and backgrounds to suit the mood, making sure the backgrounds are deep colors, and use fonts WITHOUT outline.

Seems to work as well as any other combinations I've tried.

Take care,

George

TC-Scene October 22nd, 2001 01:48 PM

I too have had problems with colors not working well on the TV screen. The problem I've been having is colors being too dark. Or contrast between the text and highlight is not great enough to show up. even if it is good on the computer screen.

It would be nice to be able to reload a saved cdg file to change the color scheme in this instance, so as to not have to re-sync the whole song. Don't know if that's possible or not but it would make life easier occasionally.

As for other problems about changing settings, I haven't noticed any problems like those mentioned previously. Except: If I change the number of lines after having synced at least some of the lyrics, the last line usually ends up being cut off on the bottom of the screen. Otherwise I'm enjoying the programs very much. :)

- Will Vincent
(The Scene)

George October 22nd, 2001 10:10 PM

I believe most of the problems that arise because the colors on the p.c. change on the t.v. are a result of the t.v. color, brightness, tint, and contrasts not properly set. Sold color t.v. for many years and I'll swear thet six different people will set their color t.v.'s to six different settings.

I dramatically reduced the difference between KHP and the t.v. by re-setting the t.v. controls. Just a thought.

Take care,

George

TC-Scene October 22nd, 2001 11:10 PM

I would have tried that too, but the TV had no settings ;)


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