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tymzend February 16th, 2005 11:56 AM

Hoster 3.006
 
Hey Folks,

I loaded up 3.006 on Monday night, and when I got to the gig Tuesday, as if by magic, my dual display wasn't working again (it worked fine 5 minutes before upgrading). Yup, the same problem that has been happening to me every time I load up a new version of Hoster.

Believe me, I know these video settings inside and out by now, and they are set EXACTLY the way they are supposed to be.

Could the upgrading of Hoster have changed anything?

I did a system restore back to when I reloaded everything on my PC a couple of weeks ago, and everything worked fine, and the gig went off without a hitch, going back to Hoster 3.000. The only thing that got put on the PC since I reloaded everything was the Hoster upgrade to 3.006. So, my logic tells me that the loading of the upgrade has something to do with the dual display not working. This happens everytime a load a new version of Hoster.

Yes, I can see the boot up screens on my singers TV (so everything is hooked up right). When I start a song, the singers display shows up on my PC (small window), rather than being extended out to the TV, acting like there is no TV hooked up.

Any ideas, again? Or, am I just cursed?

Party of one February 16th, 2005 02:21 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
When this happens to me I just drag the singers display to the Tv. Just click and drag it to the left it should enter your tv screen. Then resize it by the corner of the box. Sometimes this happens on an upgrade. I've done it a few times. It freaked me out the first time it happened to me at a show. I hope this helps. :r

Beavis February 16th, 2005 02:43 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
when you say "wasnt working" .......you meant ???? the singers display wasnt on the singers tv ?

i forgot what video card you were using.

tymzend February 16th, 2005 03:39 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Yeah, the singers display wasn't on the TV. It stayed on my PC screen.

The Video Card is ATI Radeon 9200.

You know how when you run your PC without a secondary display hooked up, the singers display shows up on your PC screen in a resizable box that you can move around? Well, when I have the PC set up at home, I just move it to the upper right hand corner out of the way, and size it so it fits up in that area.

When setting up, I hook up a secondary monitor (i.e., singers TV), turn on the TV, and then the PC. I then start Hoster. When I play a song, the small window on my PC (the singers display that I put up in the right hand corner), disappears off of the PC screen, and displays on the Singers TV. That's the way it's supposed to work.

Well, last night, I started a song, and it stayed there, and never extended itself out to the Singers TV. The Singers TV was blank.

Then, when I did the System Restore, back to a point prior to Hoster 3.006 (to Hoster 3.000), it worked fine, and displayed itself on the Singers TV.

tymzend February 16th, 2005 03:40 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Party of One, I'll give that a try.

Thanks

Beavis February 16th, 2005 04:07 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
did you try double clicking the screen ?? that generally moves it to the singers TV.

tymzend February 17th, 2005 09:28 AM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
That only expands it onto the PC screen.

Beavis February 17th, 2005 09:59 AM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
it just sounds like your dual display is not turned on. are you sure you updated your video card from its own website and not windows update drivers ?

PastMember February 17th, 2005 10:02 AM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Make sure that the 2nd screen is part of the extended desktop [settings>control panel>display>settings>] click on the secondary monitor and make sure that the box for "extend my windows desktop to this monitor" is checked.

Then you can drag the singer's screen onto the 2nd monitor and double-click it to make it full size.

(wanna freak out your pals? Put the singers screen on the monitor at half size then double click it.... it'll be full size.... THEN... when someone you know gets up to sing and you want to mess with them a little; double-click it again and it'll be half size.... the words will be almost too tiny to read. It's a hoot!)

tymzend February 17th, 2005 10:53 AM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Beavis,

Everything is up to date. It works with Hoster 3.000, but not 3.006.

Dual display is turned on.

Use Hoster 3.000, it works. Use 3.006, it doesn't.

That's the confusing part.

As I said, when I double click, it only expands it on my PC screen, not on the singers display.

MTUSUPPORT February 17th, 2005 03:05 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Tymzend,
What you might want to do when this happens again, is Try turning the Dual Display off. Then Run Hoster Play a song, then close Hoster. Once you have done this, Turn the Dual Display back on, then double click on your Singer Screen to send it to the TV, and see if that will work.

This would allow any registry settings that could be getting screwed up to be reset, when you don't have your 2nd monitor hooked up.

tymzend February 17th, 2005 04:34 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Thanks Bryan.

I'll give that a try tonight.

MimiLee February 18th, 2005 03:04 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
From my experience with this if the tv isn't connected and you double cli ck the singer screen it will become a full screen. However if the tv is connected when I double click it goes to the singer tv.

tymzend February 18th, 2005 05:47 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Mimilee, you are correct. My problem is, that even when the TV is hooked up, it goes full screen on the PC.

I'm going to do some experimenting this weekend.

There's probably just something I'm missing.

George February 18th, 2005 06:24 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Try clicking and dragging it over to the tv while it's small, THEN size it and double click it to lock it in place. That's the way it works for me.

George

Beavis February 18th, 2005 06:30 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
hey george,

when he double clicks the screen, it goes to full screen on the pc. this means it must be something wrong with his settings or the card itself.


hey tymzend,

are you using a converter from radio shack to go to the tv monitor ? or a straight RCA connection from your video card ?????

tymzend February 19th, 2005 11:04 AM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Straight RCA Connection.

In the past, I never had to move the singers display over to the TV screen for it to work.

Regardless of where it was on my PC display while Hoster was open, if I had the Singers TV hooked up, and I hit "PLAY" in Hoster, it vanished off of the PC screen, and magically appeared on the Singers TV, without having to be resized or anything. And, for the duration of the show, it would stay there.

If you move the singers display off of your PC screen (to the left), so the whole thing shows up on the TV, how can your mouse reach it to double click it and resize it? After all, you just moved it off of your screen.

Just wondering.

George February 19th, 2005 11:25 AM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tymzend
If you move the singers display off of your PC screen (to the left), so the whole thing shows up on the TV, how can your mouse reach it to double click it and resize it? After all, you just moved it off of your screen.
Just wondering.

The mouse goes out of view off the monitor screen to move it over there doesn't it?

Don't focus so much on having to move to the left, mine and many others move off to the right. I imagine that varies with different video cards

Thre way I descrtibed it in my prior post is the way ity works for me, and many others have used the same method.

You don't even have to be in Hoster, just set it up the remote and move the mouse over there, you can see it on your extended desktop.

George

George February 19th, 2005 11:34 AM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tymzend
In the past, I never had to move the singers display over to the TV screen for it to work.

Regardless of where it was on my PC display while Hoster was open, if I had the Singers TV hooked up, and I hit "PLAY" in Hoster, it vanished off of the PC screen, and magically appeared on the Singers TV, without having to be resized or anything. And, for the duration of the show, it would stay there.
Just wondering.

That's because after the initial installation and set up, the settings will usual remain persistant and there's no need to set it up each time.

George

DJYale February 19th, 2005 12:07 PM

Re: Hoster 3.006
 
Quote:

Don't focus so much on having to move to the left, mine and many others move off to the right. I imagine that varies with different video cards
The right or Left issue is based on windows display properties settings. You can drag the secondary display that's shown under settings (shown with a number 2) to either the right or the left of the primary display (number 1) to change this.


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