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Deeter March 9th, 2011 12:35 PM
Reinstall and revise library questions
 
I'm running the latest version 4 of Hoster and am upgrading/replacing my hard drive. I want to make sure I don't muck something up since Hoster is working fine for the most part.

I have a number of KMA files and some zip files with the kmh file for each. Over time I have done some database clean-up- deleting song duplicates or ones that never get sung.
When they were deleted from the song database, the actual files (kma or zip)- were they deleted as well? Or just the pointer? Or the pointer and the kmh file? I don't want to rebuild the database and drag all the old ones in that I have removed.
Since I have kma files in a folder, then sub-folders with zips and kmh files, can I move all the above into one folder and rebuild the database after the move?

ThIA

ddouglass March 9th, 2011 01:23 PM
Re: Reinstall and revise library questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deeter (Post 106014)
I'm running the latest version 4 of Hoster and am upgrading/replacing my hard drive. I want to make sure I don't muck something up since Hoster is working fine for the most part.

I have a number of KMA files and some zip files with the kmh file for each. Over time I have done some database clean-up- deleting song duplicates or ones that never get sung.
When they were deleted from the song database, the actual files (kma or zip)- were they deleted as well? Or just the pointer? Or the pointer and the kmh file? I don't want to rebuild the database and drag all the old ones in that I have removed.
Since I have kma files in a folder, then sub-folders with zips and kmh files, can I move all the above into one folder and rebuild the database after the move?

ThIA
As long as you used the Edit Songs utility to remove them from the database then yes the files were deleted too.
Don't forget to uninstall Hoster and any other MTU program you have before you change out the drive.

Roy Dennis March 9th, 2011 01:41 PM
Re: Reinstall and revise library questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deeter (Post 106014)
Since I have kma files in a folder, then sub-folders with zips and kmh files, can I move all the above into one folder and rebuild the database after the move?

ThIA
You can move them all into one folder but with the kmh files they must be together with their original zip or mp3+g files.
With the kmh files when you delete them from the database via the edit dialog it only deletes the pointer (the kmh file) not the original file.
When you rebuild it won't add the deleted ones back unless you use the import dialog to recreate the kmh file.

Deeter March 9th, 2011 02:13 PM
Re: Reinstall and revise library questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddouglass (Post 106016)
As long as you used the Edit Songs utility to remove them from the database then yes the files were deleted too.
Don't forget to uninstall Hoster and any other MTU program you have before you change out the drive.
The intention is to clone the drive and move it over, then move everything into the proper folder (songs) and do a rebuild database. If the clone is successful I shouldn't have to uninstall and reinstall, should I?

Roy Dennis March 9th, 2011 04:28 PM
Re: Reinstall and revise library questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deeter (Post 106018)
The intention is to clone the drive and move it over, then move everything into the proper folder (songs) and do a rebuild database. If the clone is successful I shouldn't have to uninstall and reinstall, should I?
I'm not 100% sure of this as it was some time ago, when I cloned files from my 80GB drive to a 160GB one I believe it just carried on as if it were the original drive, I don't think I had to rebuild or anything.
I think the problems only happen if you reinstall windows and all the other files. I do know that I had a backup of all my music just in-case things didn't go to plan.
As I'm not 100% sure it may be worth hearing Dale and others views on this.

Deeter March 9th, 2011 04:46 PM
Re: Reinstall and revise library questions
 
Ah, but see the original Windows partition was not large enough so the kma files are all on the C drive and then any added later zips, etc are on an external drive. I need to move the files from the external to the C and do a rebuild I'm fairly certain. I don't mind that, just wanted to confirm that I wouldn't have to reinstall Hoster.

ddouglass March 9th, 2011 04:58 PM
Re: Reinstall and revise library questions
 
If you are cloning then no you should not have to re-install.

According to the manual it does delete both the zip file and the KMH, but Roy may be right that it only deletes the KMH file. I don't have any files that use the KMH, so don't know for sure. You may want to look through your ZIP file folder and see if there are any that don't have KMH files. If so don't copy those over and you should have your duplicates removed still.

Roy Dennis March 9th, 2011 05:01 PM
Re: Reinstall and revise library questions
 
It was about 2 years ago when I did mine and I had about half my kma files on the C/Drive which I cloned. This was before we had Kmh files, the rest of my kma files were on an external usb drive. While I left them that way it way they still worked without rebuilding but obviously if you move them from the external drive to your C drive after doing the cloning you will have to rebuild.


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