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Hawkman December 14th, 2008 12:17 AM

Hoster program shuts down every 5 minutes
 
I really need some help on why my hoster program keeps shutting down. I get an error message that says window must close now and shuts the program down. I have sent the error to them and the reply is there is not a fix for the problem. Is anyone else complaining of the same issue. I am running XP sp-2 2g memory. Prior to the 4.0 install I never had a problem. I downloaded 4.06 with no luck. I have gone back to 4.03 and the system continues to shut me down. I ran one song tonight before it crashed. I bring it up again and I might get a few songs in and down it goes.

I have no problems with my other computer running Vista.

Any suggestions

Hawkman

bryant December 14th, 2008 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkman (Post 87107)
I really need some help on why my hoster program keeps shutting down. I get an error message that says window must close now and shuts the program down. I have sent the error to them and the reply is there is not a fix for the problem. Is anyone else complaining of the same issue. I am running XP sp-2 2g memory. Prior to the 4.0 install I never had a problem. I downloaded 4.06 with no luck. I have gone back to 4.03 and the system continues to shut me down. I ran one song tonight before it crashed. I bring it up again and I might get a few songs in and down it goes.

I have no problems with my other computer running Vista.

Any suggestions

Hawkman

Ya, I get that shutdown still about once every three shows, even with 2 gB ram and a video card that has always played videos well. Not sure why. Happened tonight again for the first time since going from 1 to 2 gB ram in laptop?:?

wb6bna December 14th, 2008 04:04 AM

hoster error
 
I am having the same problem with my laptop which never happened until last week. I am using a Dell Latitude with 256mb ram, mobility radeon display adapter 1.8g processor. I also now have another problem that just began. I have several insta buttons and the first boot and program opening they work well. After that they quit working unless I close Hoster and start it again then same thing. I am running xp sp2. Any ideas??

I formatted my drive and reinstalled xp and same problem, Crashed about every 5-10 minutes

Thanks Alan

madjim- with the Lord December 14th, 2008 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wb6bna (Post 87115)
I am having the same problem with my laptop which never happened until last week. I am using a Dell Latitude with 256mb ram, mobility radeon display adapter 1.8g processor. I also now have another problem that just began. I have several insta buttons and the first boot and program opening they work well. After that they quit working unless I close Hoster and start it again then same thing. I am running xp sp2. Any ideas?? Thanks Alan

Hey Alan,
XP is up to SP3, I've had it ever since I started running my shows with Hoster 4.0 (now running 4.06) and have never had a shutdown problem. You could try adding SP3.

Jim :g

Beavis December 14th, 2008 08:38 AM

what kind of video card do you have ?

marklwood December 14th, 2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wb6bna (Post 87115)
I am using a Dell Latitude with 256mb ram

This could be the biggest issue. Are you running any background programs? The video is borrowing memory from your 256mb, along Windows and Hoster running, I'm surprised that you are not having more problems. I bet your hard drive never stops. Have you added more songs? The added hard drive space will take room away from your swap file that windows uses in place of ram. The only way I could see Hoster running at all with this little amount of system memory is if your song list was only a couple of hundred songs. First thing to do would be to make sure you have 50% of your C:\ drive free for windows swap file. Next would be to add more system ram.

Seriously, I am really surprised that this is running Hoster at all. I would definitely hold on to that computer, Dell must have done something very right.

billyo December 14th, 2008 10:26 AM

that happened to a friend of mine last night, i was helping her out with another problem ( not hoster related ) when i got it fixed, she opened hoster and it took a while for hoster to opened and when it did she got the same error "hoster has encountered a problem and has to shut down"
she asked me if i could do something , so when i closed hoster down, just like mark said there was another program running in the background,shut the program down , re started hoster and everything went fine ( thank god we were at the place an hour before the show starts )

ddouglass December 14th, 2008 10:59 AM

Hawkman and wb6bna,
Go to this MTU web page and follow the instructions on it:
http://www.mtu.com/upgrades/hoster/xp-changes.htm

This should clear up your shutdowns. Obviously from your statements you have not updated your Windows in a long time. If it doesn't stop them it will definately reduce them and then we can narrow down your exact problem.

wb6bna December 14th, 2008 05:03 PM

hoster shutdown
 
Thank you. I have updated my xp except for sp3. Everytime I install sp3 my computer will not restart. As I said in my early post I just reformatted my laptop and completely reinstall all including the updates. Will try your fix. Thanks Alan

billyo December 14th, 2008 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wb6bna (Post 87159)
Thank you. I have updated my xp except for sp3. Everytime I install sp3 my computer will not restart. As I said in my early post I just reformatted my laptop and completely reinstall all including the updates. Will try your fix. Thanks Alan

there are some steps to update to sp3 that you must do in order for it to be installed wihout having a problem, i had that problem( i had the bllue screen 2x trying to update sp3 ) and i stayed away from it, i have sp2 still and i dont have any problems running hoster.just make sure you have all the custom updates , and if youre running vista make sure you do all the recommended changes..

wb6bna December 14th, 2008 05:23 PM

hoster shutdown
 
Thank you. I know. I have had the same prob on my desktop and had to clone it back from my 3rd hd. Thanks again.. Alan

bryant December 14th, 2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Beavis (Post 87128)
what kind of video card do you have ?

256mb ram, mobility radeon display adapter

I think the 256 mB is his video memory:r

bryant December 14th, 2008 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyo (Post 87135)
that happened to a friend of mine last night, i was helping her out with another problem ( not hoster related ) when i got it fixed, she opened hoster and it took a while for hoster to opened and when it did she got the same error "hoster has encountered a problem and has to shut down"
she asked me if i could do something , so when i closed hoster down, just like mark said there was another program running in the background,shut the program down , re started hoster and everything went fine ( thank god we were at the place an hour before the show starts )

Hmm, once in a while I get that on my wife's shuttle, but when i try again it opens fine the second time. The error message is linked to a wmp dll file. Not sure what that pertains to. Her shuttle is a very powerful machine with nothing in background at start up and 256 mB video ram dedicated. Plays virtual DJ video's, slide shows, other visual effects during video playing while using two decks at a time.

My laptop is just as versatile as far as videos go. That's the one that gets the random shutdown during a show.

wb6bna December 15th, 2008 01:23 AM

hoster shutdown
 
I checked all updates and found there were many I evidently didn't install.

I also did a fix Microsoft support gave me and then reinstalled them. So far so good... knock on wood (my head).
Thanks Alan

madjim- with the Lord December 15th, 2008 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wb6bna (Post 87180)
I did exactly what was suggested earlier and checked all updates and found there were many I evidentally didn't install. Did a fix Micrisoft5 support gave me and then re4installed them. Seems like fixed problem. So far so good. Knock on wood (my head) Thanks Alan

Hey Alan,
The only wondows updates that have ever given me problems were hardware related. If your sound card and video card are working correctly, I advise that you leave these updates alone, they can cause your cards to stop working (did to me once anyway :r). Get the rest and all should be fine

Jim :g

wb6bna December 15th, 2008 11:49 PM

hoster shutdown
 
So far all is well. Updated sound and video from manufacturers. Thanks Alan

ddouglass December 16th, 2008 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wb6bna (Post 87273)
So far all is well. Updated sound and video from manufacturers. Thanks Alan

That is always the best place to do it. Microsoft really should not post any hardware updates except for their own hardware (keyboards and mice). Anytime I see a hardware update on Microsoft's list I tell them to hide it, then go to mfg web site and see if they released a new one and if it was actually for my hardware model.

wb6bna December 16th, 2008 02:46 AM

hoster shutdown
 
Thanks to all for great assistance. Alan

wb6bna December 20th, 2008 04:25 AM

Hoster shutdown
 
Hey there I still need help. Last week I was having a problem with Hoster 4.06causing an error and shutting down. I corrected the problem I thought. Last night (Friday) I used my laptop for work and it once again shut down. I have sort of narrowed it down to when I play audio files. If I just play karaoke songs it doesn't seem to do it. Any suggestions. Thanks Alan

ddouglass December 20th, 2008 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wb6bna (Post 87536)
Hey there I still need help. Last week I was having a problem with Hoster 4.06causing an error and shutting down. I corrected the problem I thought. Last night (Friday) I used my laptop for work and it once again shut down. I have sort of narrowed it down to when I play audio files. If I just play karaoke songs it doesn't seem to do it. Any suggestions. Thanks Alan

If you are down to occasional shutdowns then you have definately narrowed it down. There has been some problems with a few MP3 audio song files and MTU has been trying to figure out why. If that is what you are using try converting some of them to wma or wav, to see if that keeps it from shutting down.


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