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bendrew September 28th, 2014 02:56 PM

sound garble when changing keys
 
Anybody had problems with sound garbling when changing keys. I we only noticed this problem lately when we did recording. Whatever keys changed, sound garble and sound not clear. Main computer and player computer has the same problem. I'm using V5.30. Hope somebody can help me with this one. I did all the tips that I can get from this forum regarding sound problem but no solution at all. I'm might be downgrading to old version if no remedy for this..

Roy Dennis September 29th, 2014 05:14 AM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
Are you only noticing this while recording ?
If so are you recording through the computers sound card or an external recorder ?

If recording through the computers sound card, what sort of connection setup do you have ?

Example: are you coming from the record out of a mixer into your line in on your computer or the mike in.
If you can explain the setup I will try to copy it myself to test.

bendrew September 29th, 2014 10:21 AM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
Let's forget recording not to confuse you. even we're playing, the sound garbled or should i say rumbled. I have no problem before and never noticed it when my friend mentioned this to me. Normal key setting (0) is fine except when key changed... It's not a big deal for me but better to submit this for a solution and for the other people using hoster. Both computer is windows 7 and working fine except for that one problem..

Roy Dennis September 29th, 2014 10:33 AM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
Have you tried switching of tempo mode ?
If you go to Tools/Tempo Mode and select "Normal play mode" does this setting improve the sound for key change ?
Admitted you will lose the tempo function with this setting but just see if there is an improvement.

bendrew September 29th, 2014 11:21 AM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
I did try switching Tempo to normal mode, too..Try drop out setting from lower to higher number. And before I submit this issue, I already did a lot of tweaking, so my last chance is to use older version and see what happen..

Lonman September 29th, 2014 02:56 PM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
It's a digital key changer, there is no getting away from the little warble that is experienced. I hear it too when I change keys (this goes back to the days of discs & players). More predominant lowering a key and worsens the lower it goes. Especially in the lower frequencies going through a nice 1000 watt sub - you can REALLY hear the warble.

bendrew September 29th, 2014 08:11 PM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
Normally, this is a big concern for everybody using this program..I am using an alternate karaoke program and i don't have this problem. So, for me, If this is a problem, why not removed it from hoster. If we cannot use it properly, what's the point of putting it in.. I cannot buy that this is because of digital technology. I don't have this problem before, so i think we need to fix this.

Retro Man August 29th, 2016 05:19 PM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
I do see that these posts are almost two years old (it's now Aug 2016), but this is the first time I've visited the Hoster forum to see if others experience "warbling" when changing keys in Hoster. I understand that Hoster uses a digital key change technology, but KeyRite is also digital and seems to work just fine. For my own stuff, I sometimes change the key before importing a song into Hoster, but this is not feasible for on-the-fly key changes. Is it possible to use the same algorithm in Hoster as we have in KeyRite? Or are there other ways to eliminate warbling? Could it be sound-card dependent?

BEECEE September 13th, 2016 09:29 PM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro Man (Post 129293)
I understand that Hoster uses a digital key change technology, but KeyRite is also digital and seems to work just fine. Is it possible to use the same algorithm in Hoster as we have in KeyRite?

Retro Man - Thanks for this post. The Hoster key change 'warble/sound artefacts' have concerned me for years. I just this moment tried a couple of the usual problem tracks using KeyRite and the key change does indeed work fine. So I agree that there is a glitch in Hoster. Really happy to learn of the KeyRite work around.

Hawkman December 18th, 2016 06:06 PM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
I have complained about this for 3 years and was told every time I spoke with someone that no one else is reporting this problem. Not only is it still not fixed I just downloaded the new hoster version and it does from song to song without playing music or showing lyrics. Very frustrating program.

Hawkman:?

bendrew December 18th, 2016 07:22 PM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
I share with your frustrations. i still have the problem but I'm using a different software now and I'm much happier. I think mtu gave up on this problem so i gave up too. Hope you can find a solution for it.

Hawkman December 19th, 2016 05:47 PM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
Thanks for responding, so your not having problems with key change on the software your using now? Can you give me the name of the software you are using now.

WaltR December 29th, 2016 02:02 PM

Re: sound garble when changing keys
 
Hey guys, here is something to look at if you are using remove silence. Try editing the song beginning in the edit page. Often the remove silence implements changes slightly too late and the garble effect will happen as the songs starts. If you change the setting at the beginning of the song to a lower setting it most likely will clear up what you are describing. In other words if your beginning setting is, for example 4.0, try changing it to 3.0. Experiment with the setting until you get a clear start time with the audio. If you aren't using "remove silence" then this isn't your answer but key changes with remove silence seems to make this issue more glaring. Hope this helps.


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