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Dean-Anthony March 18th, 2007 07:31 PM

Music Maestro copying into hoster a problem?
 
Tell me if anyone has had problems getting Music Maestro copied into computer or storage device for Hoster.
Also, after 7800 songs storage device or computer is running slower to record to computer or storage device.
I have been hosting and setting up large DJ shows for 13 yrs., but finally putting the hoster to use. Know many issues with karaoke, and been told I am very good at what I do! Just have to get ideas on the conversion.:t

ddouglass March 18th, 2007 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean-Anthony (Post 60675)
Tell me if anyone has had problems getting Music Maestro copied into computer or storage device for Hoster.
Also, after 7800 songs storage device or computer is running slower to record to computer or storage device.
I have been hosting and setting up large DJ shows for 13 yrs., but finally putting the hoster to use. Know many issues with karaoke, and been told I am very good at what I do! Just have to get ideas on the conversion.:t

Have not heard of any problems with Music Maestro, except that they used cheaper CDs. If these are used then it may be that Hoster is having to work harder to decode them which would make it slow down.
Where are you storing all the imported files? If on your C: drive then you may be filling it up which gives the operating system less room to work with, which will slow your computer down too.

bobcox- with the Lord March 18th, 2007 09:43 PM

Well over 30,000 songs.
never had a problem with MM disc.
drive may be full, and sometimes rebooting will get you back to speed.

kedmison March 19th, 2007 11:47 AM

This brings a question to mind. What WOULD be a safe limit of "space used" on your hard drive for music; before you went with an external drive to hold all the music?

Thanks,

Kelly

bobcox- with the Lord March 19th, 2007 12:35 PM

I would want at least 15gig
have you tried defraging your drive. Bob

ddouglass March 19th, 2007 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kedmison (Post 60703)
This brings a question to mind. What WOULD be a safe limit of "space used" on your hard drive for music; before you went with an external drive to hold all the music?

Thanks,

Kelly

The standard Microsoft answer is to leave a minimum of 25% of the drive free for operating space. I normally try to keep that a conservative 50%. The best way to set up for laptops especially would be to use an external drive to store your data (song files) on and leave the internal for programs and operating system. For desktops I use a second internal drive that has nothing song files.

djmadmaxx March 19th, 2007 02:40 PM

I have never had an issue with MM. Also, my computer for work has three HD's, on 80 gig for OS & Programs, 1- 250 Gig for Karaoke and 1- 500 gig for DJ Music

Dean-Anthony March 19th, 2007 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kedmison (Post 60703)
This brings a question to mind. What WOULD be a safe limit of "space used" on your hard drive for music; before you went with an external drive to hold all the music?

Thanks,

Kelly

I have an Insperon by Dell and they told me that the cooling technique for this lap top is when Ram is hot is shares with memory to cool and return to Ram. Meaning you want at least 10 gig free space for this.

ddouglass March 19th, 2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean-Anthony (Post 60726)
I have an Insperon by Dell and they told me that the cooling technique for this lap top is when Ram is hot is shares with memory to cool and return to Ram. Meaning you want at least 10 gig free space for this.

Then that would explain your slow-down. On your hard drive there is a file with allocated space called a system pagefile. When you change windows or screens this is where the data is stored to be able to do that. What Dell is doing is using part of this space to substitute for your RAM (memory) when it is getting too hot. Access to RAM is much faster than accessing the hard drive, so when your data has been shoved off to the hard drive, your system slows down waiting for the information.

There is a way to help keep the RAM cooler. There are third party base platforms (goes under laptop) that have additional cooling fans which should help some.

Dean-Anthony March 20th, 2007 12:38 PM

Slowdown on copying to storage unit
 
So what you are saying is that because I use the storage unit for all my songs and copy all my songs in the storage unit, it is running slow waiting on storage unit information.
If I had a large enough hard drive on my computer (more that 90 gig), I would be able to copy faster.
When storage unit (500gig) was new, this did the copying very fast!
:r

Dean-Anthony March 20th, 2007 12:43 PM

Copying to storage is slow process
 
After last night, I have recieved my code to add hoster to my new computer (Vista) which I still use the storage unit, but by now know to keep the Hoster in the computer. Then sync'd in the database with storage unit, and was finding all songs I have copied so far into the hoster.
So When I have time, I will start recording my Music Maestro and other discs, hopefully to find all is running great. Whitefox Entertainment:c

ddouglass March 20th, 2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean-Anthony (Post 60742)
So what you are saying is that because I use the storage unit for all my songs and copy all my songs in the storage unit, it is running slow waiting on storage unit information.
If I had a large enough hard drive on my computer (more that 90 gig), I would be able to copy faster.
When storage unit (500gig) was new, this did the copying very fast!
:r

No that isn't what I am saying. I am saying that it slows down when the memory (RAM) gets hot (as Dell said) it shifts what normally would be in memory to a temporary location on your C: drive (internal). The computer can read data from the RAM 10 times faster than it can from a hard drive. That is the reason for the slowdown. A larger C: drive would not help. More memory might help, but I think the cooling fans would help more.

This has nothing to do with the external drive/storage unit. Not that it wouldn't hurt to defragment that storage unit sometime soon. That would speed up retrieval of song information when you play them.

Dean-Anthony March 21st, 2007 11:31 AM

Slow down
 
ok that is new infor on the defrag of storage, and I will try the base fan for laptop. Do you have one of the base fans for laptop yourself?
Thanks Dean:w

ddouglass March 21st, 2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean-Anthony (Post 60776)
ok that is new infor on the defrag of storage, and I will try the base fan for laptop. Do you have one of the base fans for laptop yourself?
Thanks Dean:w

I don't use a laptop...don't trust them.:g I build my own systems because I can then get exactly what I want including extra, quiet fans.

Lonman March 21st, 2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ddouglass (Post 60779)
I don't use a laptop...don't trust them.:g I build my own systems because I can then get exactly what I want including extra, quiet fans.

Same here! Plus desktops are much more upgradeable.

bobcox- with the Lord March 21st, 2007 04:33 PM

Same here To.
HP D530 sff and compaq EVO 510 sff small and very upgradeable.
I have Laptops For Backup i carry to shows, JUST IN CASE:e :e :g

ddouglass March 21st, 2007 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean-Anthony (Post 60776)
ok that is new infor on the defrag of storage, and I will try the base fan for laptop. Do you have one of the base fans for laptop yourself?
Thanks Dean:w

Dean,
Check out the Vantec LPC-305. I think this one could helpful, isn't expensive, has a variable fan control (help with noise) and is AC powered where a lot of them are USB powered which sucks up battery.

Dean-Anthony March 29th, 2007 11:23 AM

Fan not a problem any longer
 
Just received a new lap for the show, has Vista, which takes a little while to get used to at first. Now that I am on third week, I am realizing Vista is better than XP for the video and the sound quality.
I love laptops, and now that I defraged the system and checked a little further keeping up with the database and songbase, all is working much better. Watch me on helloworld doing the newest of karaoke live on the internet and soon TV.

WaltR March 30th, 2007 04:24 PM

I have not had a problem with Music Maestro and find their sound tracks to be pretty good. I think for awhile there was an issue importing the last track but I believe that has been fixed. I thinks Music Maestro had more Elvis Presley tracks than anyone. By the way, I have heard that Music Maestro is no longer in business. Has anyone else heard this? :e

Lonman March 30th, 2007 06:27 PM

MM has been out of business for a little over a year or so. They were allegedly producing tracks without obtaining the proper licensing. Not a big loss to me, I found many of their tracks to be very midi sounding. Some songs were done quite well I do admit to SOME of their country discs were ok & anything that sounded like it was midi on the radio was done ok, otherwise.....:r .


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