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Roy Dennis March 19th, 2007 05:26 PM

Recording On Microstudio 4.00
 
I have been trying to record my voice added to the music playing but either get just my voice, or just the music. I have tried various settings in microstudio & in Windows settings. In sound & audio devices, record, it shows 3 items, Stereo Mix, CD Audio, & Microphone. Now it will only allow me to tick one box. It is much the same wheather I use my internal sound card or my sound blaster external card. The only way I have been able to record both is to play it through my external mixer. Which defeats the object of the original idea of capturing every track and saving when you think you have a good take. Am I doing something completly wrong or is it the limitations of my equipment.

Dell Inspiron 5150
Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2
Processor -Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R)
4 CPU 3.06GHz
1.59 GHz, 256MB of RAM
Sound Card -Sigma Tel Audio.(On-board sound device)
Sound Blaster Model S80270 (external Sound Device)
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200
HD60 Gb Hard Drive Internal & 400Gb Samson USB External.
CD-R - Plextor Premium U
DVD HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GC-4040N
DirectX Version - 9.0

Any ideas :?

Roy Dennis

ddouglass March 19th, 2007 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis (Post 60720)
I have been trying to record my voice added to the music playing but either get just my voice, or just the music. I have tried various settings in microstudio & in Windows settings. In sound & audio devices, record, it shows 3 items, Stereo Mix, CD Audio, & Microphone. Now it will only allow me to tick one box. It is much the same wheather I use my internal sound card or my sound blaster external card. The only way I have been able to record both is to play it through my external mixer. Which defeats the object of the original idea of capturing every track and saving when you think you have a good take. Am I doing something completly wrong or is it the limitations of my equipment.

Dell Inspiron 5150
Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2
Processor -Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R)
4 CPU 3.06GHz
1.59 GHz, 256MB of RAM
Sound Card -Sigma Tel Audio.(On-board sound device)
Sound Blaster Model S80270 (external Sound Device)
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200
HD60 Gb Hard Drive Internal & 400Gb Samson USB External.
CD-R - Plextor Premium U
DVD HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GC-4040N
DirectX Version - 9.0

Any ideas :?

Roy Dennis

Roy this sounds like sound card software problem. Did you try it in Stereo Mix as that should give you both?

Roy Dennis March 20th, 2007 05:15 AM

Hi Dale Douglass

Yes Idid try it in stereo mix and thats when I only get the music, nothing from the mike although I press the button to show mike on in Microstudio.

I will keep on trying when I get the time maybe I will stumble on the solution.

Roy Dennis.

ddouglass March 20th, 2007 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis (Post 60733)
Hi Dale Douglass

Yes Idid try it in stereo mix and thats when I only get the music, nothing from the mike although I press the button to show mike on in Microstudio.

I will keep on trying when I get the time maybe I will stumble on the solution.

Roy Dennis.

Some people have had a problem with the Microstudio not changing the microphone setting in the audio control panel. Try opening it by double clicking on the speaker icon in the tray and watch the microphone control as you change Microstudio to see if it is functioning correctly.

jahern March 20th, 2007 12:00 PM

Microphone Recording
 
A while back I wanted to record my voice. My direcet mic setup didn't work there either. (I wasn't using Microstudio, this was about a year ago) I did exactly what you are describing.

I decided that my microphone might need to be the right kind of Computer microphone. Have you tried a mike specifically meant to be used with a computer?

jahern March 20th, 2007 12:25 PM

Computer mics have amplification
 
Looked at computer mics on outpost.com (Fry's) and looked at the description of a microphone for the computer. It is amplified, which means it needs to be plugged into a power source. I Figured that that might be the case when I was doing my recording a year ago, but I solved the problem then by using my mixer (which of course has a power source)

ddouglass March 20th, 2007 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jahern (Post 60740)
Looked at computer mics on outpost.com (Fry's) and looked at the description of a microphone for the computer. It is amplified, which means it needs to be plugged into a power source. I Figured that that might be the case when I was doing my recording a year ago, but I solved the problem then by using my mixer (which of course has a power source)

I have had several microphones and headsets for computers....none of which have ever been powered??:?

jahern March 20th, 2007 02:09 PM

Thanks for the Info
 
Still, do the typical microphones that we plug into our ampliphiers to sing karaoke work with the computer? Mine didn't and I'm kind of exploring why not. My curiosity was given a rebirth because of this thread.

:g

ddouglass March 20th, 2007 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jahern (Post 60745)
Still, do the typical microphones that we plug into our ampliphiers to sing karaoke work with the computer? Mine didn't and I'm kind of exploring why not. My curiosity was given a rebirth because of this thread.

:g

It depends on the impedence of the microphone. If the mic is high impedence and computer or mixer for that matter is a low impedence then the output is greatly deminished and can be so low you can't here anything.

billyo March 20th, 2007 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddouglass (Post 60748)
It depends on the impedence of the microphone. If the mic is high impedence and computer or mixer for that matter is a low impedence then the output is greatly deminished and can be so low you can't here anything.

i tried recording using a direct connection, used my laptop as the audio source (microstudio ) and a cd recorder/burner both plugged into my mixing board and a mic also plugged into the board.." i get an error msg. from the cd recorder " no audio ".. just wondering if anyone out there succesfully recorded anything..

Roy Dennis March 20th, 2007 05:33 PM

Hi Dale & Jahern

I think as Dale said in his first reply that I have a software problem with my sound card, nothing to do with microstudio.

Answering Dales idea. I dont get any reaction with System audio controls in microstudios mike setting by double clicking.

In answer to Jahern, I use my karaoke mike and it works fine if I record voice only, it's just that I can not mix with another source.

When I get a bit more time to spare I will try uninstalling my sound card and reinstalling. I am a bit reluctant to try it at the moment as I have some shows to do with my Hoster Programme and might mess up the sound for that.

In my shows with Hoster I record the whole show in single takes from the record out on my mixer which feeds back into my computer using my sound blaster sound card line in sockets. Together with creative media sauce player which has a record button on it and auto signal leveling, this works fine and saves all recordings in MP3 format that does'nt use up much hard drive space.
I know it's not legal but I burn about 18-20 of the songs on CD. The manager at one bar puts it on his juke box and it gives everybody a good laugh.

Thanks for your ideas.

Roy.

admin March 26th, 2007 10:17 PM

The problem may be when using an external audio device, such as a USB box, you may have change the default mic in. If I'm right, MS 4.0 ONLY works with the Micosoft Mic, not the DEFAULT Mic.

I'm not making full sense to myself, so I'm sure ya'll are getting confused. I just remember that during Beta Testing, someone who could not record, finally discovered that he had changed the default Mic to his external box. When he changed it to the default Microsoft Mic, it all worked perfectly.

Roy Dennis March 31st, 2007 12:52 PM

Hi all

I am giving up trying to get voice & music to mix. It may be due to a problem I had about a year ago with my sound card when the internal sound stop working altogether. I took the laptop to a specialist repairer and he got it going again so it may be something he did. Don't fancy taking it back again and forking out another £100.

Roy Dennis

ddouglass March 31st, 2007 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy Dennis (Post 61194)
Hi all

I am giving up trying to get voice & music to mix. It may be due to a problem I had about a year ago with my sound card when the internal sound stop working altogether. I took the laptop to a specialist repairer and he got it going again so it may be something he did. Don't fancy taking it back again and forking out another £100.

Roy Dennis

I have reported this to MTU and they also have some computers with sound cards that don't work right for the recording. So they are working on a fix for version 4.001

admin April 1st, 2007 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddouglass (Post 61199)
I have reported this to MTU and they also have some computers with sound cards that don't work right for the recording. So they are working on a fix for version 4.001

That is correct. We have a new consultant working on this code. He found reasons why some sound cards won't work, and we are totally re-engineering the entire recording/playing save to disc code base.

Here I thought adding Recording the Mic would be a simple task! Nothing with Microsoft's WIndows is simple. They make you jump through hoops, and spend 4x longer researching how to successfully use what they did, than we spend writing code. :r

We expect to be beta testing something this week. :c

chickdodge April 1st, 2007 02:29 PM

Recording w/Vista Ultimate
 
The problem everyone is talking about in this thread also applies to the new Vista Ultimate. I'm having the same problem, when recording I can only record my voice (and without the music, people leave the room!)

lmcmains April 1st, 2007 05:54 PM

Mine worked during one of the beta versions but won't record music or voice now.

admin April 3rd, 2007 11:12 AM

We expect to get Microstudio 4.001 Beta 1 out today for testing. It will fix the problems discussed in this Thread, or we won't release it until it does. :w

chickdodge April 3rd, 2007 11:43 AM

Beta
 
Any chance of beilng one of the beta testers?

admin April 3rd, 2007 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chickdodge (Post 61271)
Any chance of beilng one of the beta testers?

Participate in the Forums. We select our testers from those who we can see their attitude, and how they have worked with others in the Forums. All our Beta Testers have at least 100 Forum posts. :)


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