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gotrich December 10th, 2008 01:57 PM

crap what happen
 
ok I got my 2nd laptop running got hoster on it got upgrade on it. Coppied my kma folder to new machine and first dong in old pc is 102 I hope you dance. first song one new machine is 101 know the way to san antone..

Should the data bases not be the same?

I can find to ryme or reason for this. Same files.. coppied the folder.. so now what


I found I hope you dance.. same version but is number like 31802 or something

some files are in the right spots like ol red 8813 and picture 10403.. but what happen to others?

ddouglass December 10th, 2008 02:19 PM

How did you rebuild the database on the 2nd laptop? Add or Rebuild?
If you used Add it may have changed the numbers.
If so try deleting all the KMA files, delete the Songs.mdb and Songs_backup.mdb files and re-copying the KMA files from the original again and open Hoster again. That should trigger it to rebuild the database again and fix it. If it doesn't automatically rebuild then use the Tools Rebuild and do it.

gotrich December 10th, 2008 03:16 PM

umm
 
I believe I did add. then i deleted the db and tried rebuild.. and got same result both times
.

what do i do

gotrich December 10th, 2008 03:27 PM

also
 
it also says i have duplicate files. the duplicates are the songs that took over. How do I fix duplicate files. I looked at the manual but am confused

mindonstrike December 10th, 2008 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotrich (Post 86848)
I believe I did add. then i deleted the db and tried rebuild.. and got same result both times
.

what do i do

Once has changed the kma header, it is a permanant change, rebuilding won't change it back. Like Dale said you need to delete the kma's and the db. Bring in the kma's from your other computer again and rebuild the database. The duplicate diskid thing may go away at this point at well.

Sam

gotrich December 10th, 2008 05:12 PM

ugh
 
I don't understand!

mindonstrike December 10th, 2008 05:35 PM

REBUILD at this point will only reflect the changes to the kma header that occured when you used ADD. The only way to undo this is to delete the changed kma's and bring in fresh copies of kma's from your other computer and use "Build Database" instead of add.

Not sure why using ADD caused this problem in the first place unless there's some issue with using it when no database exists for it to add to in the first place.

Sam

marklwood December 10th, 2008 05:54 PM

gotrich,
I have a possible reason for both situations. Did you have any KMAs on the C:\ drive to test your install? That, along with the add rebuild would cause this exact issue. What these guys are telling you is to start over.

Do a computer wide search for .KMA and delete all files from all drives. Then delete the database, songs.mdb and its backup backup_songs.mdb. Then copy all the KMA files from your other computer again. These will have the correct header information for the song numbers on your other machine. They were not changed by the rebuild/add process. Then when you open Hoster it will automatically find the song # information stored in the header of the KMA files from youe other machine and match what you have on both machines.

gotrich December 10th, 2008 06:14 PM

ok
 
on machine 2 i deleted all databases bu song singer..ALL datbases. I also delted all KMA on machine 2.

From machine 1 i am transfering the KMA to mach 2.

Now when i open hoster on machine 2 do i go to tools / song database then...

madjim- with the Lord December 10th, 2008 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotrich (Post 86866)
on machine 2 i deleted all databases bu song singer..ALL datbases. I also delted all KMA on machine 2.

From machine 1 i am transfering the KMA to mach 2.

Now when i open hoster on machine 2 do i go to tools / song database then...

Rebuild, this will get you going.

Jim

gotrich December 10th, 2008 06:26 PM

ok here goes nothing
 
kmas are transfering will keep you posted

billyo December 10th, 2008 06:49 PM

i think when using the add button these merges all your kma files, that probably why you're getting all the duplicates

marklwood December 10th, 2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotrich (Post 86866)
on machine 2 i deleted all databases bu song singer..ALL datbases. I also delted all KMA on machine 2.

From machine 1 i am transfering the KMA to mach 2.

Now when i open hoster on machine 2 do i go to tools / song database then...

If you deleted the bucket.mdb you will have to copy that one back there. You can do this from machine 1.

madjim- with the Lord December 10th, 2008 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyo (Post 86873)
i think when using the add button these merges all your kma files, that probably why you're getting all the duplicates

I never merge.

Jim :g

gotrich December 10th, 2008 07:08 PM

so what do i do with this list of
 
the duplicate songs.. what do i do with that list

gotrich December 10th, 2008 07:17 PM

umm
 
when i open hoster it started do something to the database all on its own..

if somwonw would like to call me and help me my number is 219-789-5441

billyo December 10th, 2008 07:23 PM

its probably converting your zip files ( if you have any ) to kma..

gotrich December 10th, 2008 07:27 PM

no
 
i dont have any zip files in that folder. I do have some zips on antoher machine.. but using songverter to convert to bin then put in hoster.

gotrich December 10th, 2008 07:31 PM

ok got a database..
 
now what to do with buplicate file

billyo December 10th, 2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madjim (Post 86877)
I never merge.

Jim :g

i had to jim, for some reason if i do a rebuild some songs that i know i have won't show up " not in the database" but if i do add all the songs will come up..i am not really worried about the disc id's or duplicates it's good to have them ( duplicates )just incased if the song thats playing is not to my standard i can always pick onother, i rarely do my searched with it anyway, i always search for tittles and artist..


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