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ddouglass October 29th, 2008 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Picolo Porco (Post 84957)
Begin rant: Why doesn't Hoster play nice with Windows? It requires and Admin level account (which I would prefer not to have to grant to my kj), apparently doesn't work with WMP11 installed, and is generally hogging up more and more resources with each version, becoming bloatware.

MTU should focus on making the karaoke part work better (customizing start and stop set points in songs, pitch-independent tempo control, etc.) and not waste resources with video jockey or audio features. There are plenty of other apps which do those much better than Hoster ever will.
Actually the big question is why doesn't Windows (especially Vista) play nice with existing programs. Instead of making the OS be backward compatible as Microsoft preaches, they change how programs have to interact with the OS so third party software companies have to scramble to make the programs work with the new OS.
As others have said it does work with WMP11 (which is a bigger memory hog than Hoster) but only if you have sufficient memory on the system and on the video card.
All of those added features and the additional ones to come were all asked for by users like you and me, so we have no one to blame but us.

laddie October 29th, 2008 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Picolo Porco (Post 84957)
That solved it.

I have a ATI Radeon X300 card, by the way.

Begin rant: Why doesn't Hoster play nice with Windows? It requires and Admin level account (which I would prefer not to have to grant to my kj), apparently doesn't work with WMP11 installed, and is generally hogging up more and more resources with each version, becoming bloatware.

MTU should focus on making the karaoke part work better (customizing start and stop set points in songs, pitch-independent tempo control, etc.) and not waste resources with video jockey or audio features. There are plenty of other apps which do those much better than Hoster ever will.
I thougt it would work. You should be aware that MTU did'nt require you to use wmp 11.

bryant October 30th, 2008 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by billyo (Post 84970)
my main and back-up laptops works with wmp 11

My backup laptop exhibits a slight refresh, blinking, (the little hourglass comes up for a split second) whenever I place the cursor on a different song while another song is playing, it never used to do that. Have you or anyone noticed that with their machines, esp. laptops.

This laptop has 1 gB memory with a 256 mB shared video card that has always played videos well both on virtual dj and hoster. I do keep virtual dj minimized.

madjim- with the Lord October 30th, 2008 09:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bryant (Post 85012)
My backup laptop exhibits a slight refresh, blinking, (the little hourglass comes up for a split second) whenever I place the cursor on a different song while another song is playing, it never used to do that. Have you or anyone noticed that with their machines, esp. laptops.
Hey Bryant,
I see the same thing on Test Machine#1. I'll check my show machine at tonights gig.

Is it causing a problem for you? I can't make it cause a problem on mine.

Jim :g

madjim- with the Lord October 30th, 2008 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bryant (Post 85012)
This laptop has 1 gB memory with a 256 mB shared video card
How fast is the porcessor on this laptop Bryant?

Jim :g

bryant October 30th, 2008 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by madjim (Post 85019)
How fast is the porcessor on this laptop Bryant?

Jim :g
Oh, it's that 1.8 gZ duo processor. It actually works better on videos with virtual dj, than a much newer model of the same brand, and it does this with a lower model video card too. The newer Dell laptop I have has a NVidea 7300, which has been known to freeze up videos with VDJ.

bryant October 30th, 2008 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by madjim (Post 85014)
Hey Bryant,
I see the same thing on Test Machine#1. I'll check my show machine at tonights gig.

Is it causing a problem for you? I can't make it cause a problem on mine.

Jim :g
I usually move that cursor around pretty fast and maybe I did "two things at once" in that split second where the hourglass was showing.

bryant October 30th, 2008 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by madjim (Post 85014)
Hey Bryant,
I see the same thing on Test Machine#1. I'll check my show machine at tonights gig.

Is it causing a problem for you? I can't make it cause a problem on mine.

Jim :g
I wonder if its that wmp11 haunting us then.

kedmison October 31st, 2008 11:47 AM
I used the 4.06 the other night. For the first time ever I had sync problems. Music stayed out in front the lyrics. Tried restarting and still made no difference. Used 3.40 rest of the night. 4.05 worked flawlessly. I do have windows media 11. I will try reverting back to 7. If that doesn't work I will go back to 4.05 and stay there awhile.

My laptop is a dell 1505 XP 2 gig ram and 128 video.

Kelly

madjim- with the Lord October 31st, 2008 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bryant (Post 85034)
I wonder if its that wmp11 haunting us then.
I've been using WMP11 ever since I stared testing Hoster 4.XX with no problems. This seems to apply to computers with fewer resources. WMP11 is a resource hog but works fine when it gets what it needs.


Jim :g

OneEskalera October 31st, 2008 09:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kedmison (Post 85056)
I used the 4.06 the other night. For the first time ever I had sync problems. Music stayed out in front the lyrics. Tried restarting and still made no difference. Used 3.40 rest of the night. 4.05 worked flawlessly. I do have windows media 11. I will try reverting back to 7. If that doesn't work I will go back to 4.05 and stay there awhile.

My laptop is a dell 1505 XP 2 gig ram and 128 video.

Kelly
Kelly
Did you try using the old player (option)?. Try It and check again your audio and video synchronization.

kedmison November 3rd, 2008 09:39 AM
Not sure what you mean by "old player option." I did roll back to WMP 10. Lyrics still out of sync. For the time being I went back to 4.05. Works perfect.

Kelly

bryant November 3rd, 2008 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by madjim (Post 85064)
I've been using WMP11 ever since I stared testing Hoster 4.XX with no problems. This seems to apply to computers with fewer resources. WMP11 is a resource hog but works fine when it gets what it needs.


Jim :g
Such as laptops, I presume, lappys may need 2gB RAM.???:?

ddouglass November 3rd, 2008 10:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kedmison (Post 85157)
Not sure what you mean by "old player option." I did roll back to WMP 10. Lyrics still out of sync. For the time being I went back to 4.05. Works perfect.

Kelly
Kelly,
Go to Tools/Options and at the bottom of the box there is a button to switch between the "Old" player and the "New" player with a description of the differences.

Picolo Porco November 21st, 2008 02:35 PM
I understand the need to add features and to innovate. What I *don't* understand is why MTU *removed* an option (the audio offset feature) that would have alleviated this problem for me.

ddouglass November 21st, 2008 03:36 PM
It was removed because it does not work with the new player they wrote, so it wouldn't have helped you anyway.

rickyrey November 21st, 2008 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by marklwood (Post 84738)
The error 1706 is essentially harmless. The fix to avoid this is to uninstall the previous version before you install. It is a Microsoft error, and even THEY aren't sure how to stop it. It happens with their own installs too.

The other issue is lyrics sync. Please do not think I am trying to be offensive here but... If you have done all of the changes to Vista that are listed on the linked page during the install, you are the only person who still has this problem. Please go back and verify all the changes. You may have missed something or something may have accidentally been changed by you or one of your DJs.

If you are still having problems, post back here with your computer specs and any other programs that may be running in the background.
I am not trying to be offensive either but he is the second. I report the forum about it

marklwood November 21st, 2008 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rickyrey (Post 86175)
I am not trying to be offensive either but he is the second. I report the forum about it
If you look at the post date, you will see that this is over a month old. To my knowledge that was the first post about lyrics sync with 4.06. We have since had others who have had this problem. Most have been centered around video card issues. The others have been background programs running. I will go now to your post about lyrics sync to review it and see if I have any suggestions or ideas.

Picolo Porco December 1st, 2008 09:57 PM
It's definitely NOT a graphics card problem. I bought a brand new ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT with 512 Mb of DDR3 RAM and I'm still having the same problem. The box is significantly better than minimum specs. It's Athlon 64 3400+ at 2.39 GHz and has 1 Gb, running XP MCE SP3. This problem is very annoying and disruptive. I'm at my wits' end.

marklwood December 2nd, 2008 03:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Picolo Porco (Post 86482)
It's Athlon 64 3400+ at 2.39 GHz and has 1 Gb, running XP MCE SP3.
Part of your problem could be Windows hitting the swap file too often. I would recommend at least 2 Gb of memory, 3 if you can swing it. Also, how much free space on your C: drive? I would recommend keeping 50% free. Without knowing your particular setup this would be my first place to start. The next would be background programs, then services.


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