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hwheeler43 August 17th, 2007 03:18 PM

Is the Windows Ding file in the Windows/media folder like in XP?

Thanks in advance. Henry

mindonstrike August 17th, 2007 06:25 PM

That's where mine is C:\windows\media

Sam

sleflar August 17th, 2007 09:26 PM

That is where it's at, however it won't stop the beep. The beep is an internal critical stop sound that you can't turn off under Vista.

www.starsoundsproductions.com

ddouglass August 17th, 2007 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleflar (Post 65038)
That is where it's at, however it won't stop the beep. The beep is an internal critical stop sound that you can't turn off under Vista.

www.starsoundsproductions.com

As you stated earlier in this thread create a new "silent" wav file and replace the ding.wav with it.

hwheeler43 August 20th, 2007 08:59 AM

1 Attachment(s)
:c Attached is a silent wave file to replace the windows ding.wav if anyone wants to use it. I tried going to the windows/media folder to rename and replace this file and ran in to security issues. Can anyone tell me how to change the permissions for this folder so that I can write to it? Thanks, Henry

ADMIN NOTE: Henry... you the man! Others talked about their silent files, but you give us your solution as an attachment! :g But this story's still not over... Henry has turned into a "pit bull" and won't let go of this BUG! Read on...

mindonstrike August 20th, 2007 03:37 PM

I think you need to be logged on as an administrator. I'm always logged on that way so I just end up having to confirm my intentions a half dozen times

Sam

hwheeler43 August 25th, 2007 09:28 PM

I have found the answer for this beep problem in Vista. Right click on the speaker in the lower left and select Playback Devices. Then select the properties for the device in the playback window (In my case it was Realtek Speakers...I simply clicked on it and selected properties at the bottom right of the window). Then click on the levels tab. Turn the sound down and mute the PC Beep. This worked on my Toshiba laptop with Realtek Audio. I suspect it will work on others as well.

Good luck, Hank

ADMIN NOTE: Good advice that worked for Henry... er Hank, but not the universal solution yet. Read on...

admin August 26th, 2007 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hwheeler43 (Post 65175)
I have found the answer for this beep problem in Vista. Right click on the speaker in the lower left and select Playback Devices. Then select the properties for the device in the playback window (In my case it was Realtek Speakers...I simply clicked on it and selected properties at the bottom right of the window). Then click on the levels tab. Turn the sound down and mute the PC Beep. This worked on my Toshiba laptop with Realtek Audio. I suspect it will work on others as well.

Good luck, Hank

It looks like Henry (or Hank :w) may have the solution here.

Can anyone else prove this works? MTUSUPPORT will try it on our Vista test system on Monday and post our results.

If this works for you, please post your results here and we'll write up a FAQ for this, and I'll probably add it in the manual. Also, please include what version of Vista you are running. It may be only 1 or 2 of the 3 may have the problem.

ADMIN NOTE: Alas... turns out this too is still not the final solution yet. Read on...

bobcox- with the Lord August 26th, 2007 12:12 PM

I'm using windows vista bussiness.
i turned off all windows sounds and have not had a problem with beeps or dings. Bob

Later copied here by Admin:

Admin, I was wrong, if i turn up the sound i have a slight beep,
i have turned off everything i can and still get the beep.
i have used this machine for about 10 shows without a problem. Bob

xxyzz August 26th, 2007 10:16 PM

Windows Ding
 
This "fix" did not work for me, if you turn the speakers down you loose all sound playback. O also tried turning off all windows sounds and that did not work either. Actually that makes it worse because now it beeps just selecting any icon on the desktop.

It should be noted that once the songs are in the Hoster playlist, I can select them without any beep. The only time I get the beep is when I am selecting songs when using the add track database search.

This does not happen when I am using any other program, just Hoster. Selecting songs in windows media player, iTunes etc.

Dell Inspiron running Vista

ADMIN NOTE: Ouch! Maybe we do have something to look for in Hoster. Then again, Windows Media Player (WMP) is an App like Hoster, and the Search is a separate dialog box, which Windows handles differently. Can't fire up the MTU team to solve this one yet as it still smells like a Vista problem. Read on...

jahern August 27th, 2007 01:15 AM

Killing the beep
 
I have a program that beeps when I select or copy anything. I use it to copy the names of selected files onto a spreadsheet. I didn't know that it was the culprit until I turned everything off in windows. Once I disabled the beep in this program I was beepless. My symptoms were in Microstudio, not Hoster, but it all sounds too familiar. My program was M8 Free Multiclip Board.

ADMIN NOTE: Interesting fact proving it is system related, but not the solution yet. Read on...

hwheeler43 August 27th, 2007 08:47 AM

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Under the Levels tab you will find something called "PC Beep". It can be turned off. This PC Beep is the culprit.

I only had it [the beep] showing up when I clicked on a song from the Search window as well. This is a Vista thing, not Hoster.

Once I turned off this PC Beep I am able to add tracks from the search window with no more beep.

Attached is a Disable Beep document. I have not tested it. Maybe Admin can. It might work on more machines than the fix I found on mine.

ADMIN NOTE: This didn't work for XXYzz as seen below. Is there on true work-around for the Vista bug? Can MTU find something related to using dialog boxes (the Search method) that can "disable" beeps? :? :? :?

xxyzz August 27th, 2007 10:34 AM

Windows Ding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hwheeler43 (Post 65209)
Under the levels tab you will find something called "PC Beep". It can be turned off. This PC Beep is the culprit. I only had it showing up when I clicked on a song from the search window as well. This is a Vista thing, not Hoster. Once I turned off this PC Beep I am able to add tracks from the search window with no more beep. Attached is a Disable Beep document. I have not tested it, Maybe Admin can. It might work on more machines than the fix I found on mine.


I tried this too it did not work even after re-booting and double checking to make sure that the ding was still in disable mode.

I found this article too but I could not get this to work either or I am doing it wrong............

One of the most annoying things in Vista is that once you change your system sounds, applications will play the default sound (typically "Windows Ding.wav") every time you select an item in a listview control. Frankly, this was driving me to distraction and so I spent some time digging around and thought I would share here, in case anyone else was annoyed. My apoligies if this has already been posted elsewhere.

It turns out, it looks there's a bug in the [Vista] Control Panel applet where you set your sound preferences. Even if you have the "Select" sound set to nothing, it's creating an entry (what is probably a null string) in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps\.Default\CCSelect\.Current.

Because it's not actually a sound file, it reverts to the default sound. And, because the folks at Microsoft apparently want to make this as annoying as possible, if you disable the default sound, then it decides to do you the "favor" of beeping using your system speaker. Everyone on the Vista team should be forced to wear headphones and listen to an endless loop of "Windows Ding.wav" until a fix is published for this. I'm just saying.

In the meantime, here's a temporary fix in the form of a registry file. Note that you'll need to run this after every time you change your system sounds through the control panel, or the Ding from Hell™ will return:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps\.Default\CCSelect]
@=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps\.Default\CCSelect\.current]
@=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps\.Default\CCSelect\.Default]
@=""

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps\.Default\CCSelect\.Modified]
@=""


ADMIN NOTE: We have a new proposal here. MTU has a pause in our development schedule and will take a look at this ourselves. Everyone with Vista.. please try this and post your findings.

MTUSUPPORT September 6th, 2007 12:28 PM

Here is the FAQ on how to Fix this for Good http://www.mtu.com/kb/index.php?action=kb&article=93

Beavis September 6th, 2007 04:49 PM

great work bryan

N181RV October 18th, 2007 02:20 PM

Beeps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MTUSUPPORT (Post 65570)
Here is the FAQ on how to Fix this for Good http://www.mtu.com/kb/index.php?action=kb&article=93

The black cloud still hangs over me.
I have been fighting this for quite awhile and I still have the beep when "selecting" in the search option of Hoster.

I went into the registry and worked my way down to "ccselect".
Under ccselect, I have three listings .current .modified and .none....

I don't see anything about delete "key klick yes'.

Can someone tell me where it hides?

Thanks,

Phil

mindonstrike October 18th, 2007 04:40 PM

I think it's
"...With CCSelect selected, press the Delete Key" ...and then after pressing the Delete key..." Click Yes when it asks you if you are sure. "

N181RV October 18th, 2007 05:58 PM

ok, "I see, said the blind man" I just missed the language a bit. I have been also fighting some hum on the audio.
I got it fixed.
I have a small HP notebook that I carry out to shows. When it is on battery power, it has clean audio, when I plug in the A/C adapter, it gets dirty. Not real bad, but a little more hum than is on the battery.
I switched to an IBM A/C adapter and bingo it is clean. The charge voltage is very slightly less when measured with a Fluke, but it is charging nicely and the sosund is super clean.
I think HP tried to cheapen things too much. The HP pack is half the size of the IBM pack and it runs way too hot in my oppinion. I will see what happens after a few days. Usually the voltage "in" is higher when it hits the regulator and is dropped down quite a bit. so I think I am fixed.


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