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Lauraine Graham- with the Lord
August 19th, 2001, 04:21 AM
I am new to these processes soI naturally assume I am not doing it correctly. I have created 6 CDG songs which play beautifully from my hard drive. However, when I burn them to disc and play them in my player the vocals, which have been removed using Vogone 2, are clearly audible. When played from the hard drive the vocals are acceptably low in the mix. I am so disappointed. I really wanted to show off my production to my karaoke friends, but at the moment I will have to leave them on my computer until I know how to solve this problem. Can anyone help me please?

admin
August 19th, 2001, 08:49 PM
There can only be several real differences from your computer to your Karaoke player, and I believe they are all in the audio output channels.

1. The Speakers and amplifier you are listening to on your computer. If you have cheap multi-media speakers, you may not be able to hear low and high frequencies that you could remove if you heard them. This is a well know problem that is addressed by all professional studio engineers. You need good quality Near Field monitors to do an excellent job. I'm not saying that you will do wonders with vocal reduction simply by having better speakers, but I am saying you cannot remove frequencies you cannot hear. Thus, you probably will do a better job with better speakers. Try using the same amplifier and speakers on your computer that you are listening to on your Karaoke Player.

2. The Equalization settings on your Karaoke Player if there are any, might be boosting the bass or treble so it amplifies the residual echo frequencies. Vogone adds bass and treble boost so you don't want to boost them more in a Karaoke Player. If there are no EQ controls on your Player, this point probably does not apply.

3. The Digital-to-Analog converter on either device - your audio output in the computer, and the output in your Karaoke player - can affect the quality of audio you hear. Regretfully, we all want to believe that even the cheapest audio card is so wonderful, and so rich and full of all audio frequencies with no coloration of the... balderdash! The truism "you get what you pay for" carries a lot of truth in the audio field. Specs are just that... paper specs to make you feel comfortable to buy it. A better quality sound card compared to built-on audio on the motherboard will probably make a difference in what you hear. If the A/D converters and re-creation filters are poor performers, the highest quality speakers and amps in the world won't make a bit of difference.

Sorry I did not point these things out earlier. Please post back here what you find out.

Elvis P
October 10th, 2001, 08:37 PM
I have a disc that was created with the MTU program. When I try to play it on my Pioneer Karaoke player on the normal settings, I can barely hear the music at all. However, when I hit the one touch button, the music plays with plenty of volume. Will I have a problem if I try to play this disc in a machine without the One Touch feature ??

In a similar vein, I have noticed that I have a similar problem with some CDG's that a re multiplexed like Sound Choice Power picks. I have to play them in the One Touch mode to hear the vocals on the disc. Is this a problem with my player ?